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This is what you get when you constantly promote zizek.

Edit: there’s a reason why marxists don’t use hegel’s dialectics

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[–] Giyuu@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Yeah fetishizing philosophy is fairly common in western spheres. But we Marxists are not philosophers, we are scientists and with that comes observations and experimentation (real world implementation, praxis, etc ).

I come from a natural sciences background so my honest feelings is that a lot of that pre Marx stuff is, while nice to know, not particularly necessary.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I come from a natural sciences background so my honest feelings is that a lot of that pre Marx stuff is, while nice to know, not particularly necessary.

Same. I've always been suspicious of pure philosophy and i still am.

For me one of the best sentences that Marx ever wrote is the last point he makes in "Theses on Feuerbach":

"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it."

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's just important to know how the theory has been developed over time, and stress how even the development of dialectics is dialectical itself! Everything is a process.

Marx didn't develop dialectics in a vacuum, it was developed by building up from Hegel's dialectics, which in turn were built from someones else. And surely, people will continue to develop dialectics by building up from Marx. It's all a process.

We have to respect the previous philosophers for being part of the process but we must not idolize them, even Marx. Even if Marxism (dialectical materialism) may seem as the end of philosophy, there will come a time were someone builds up from it and renders it obsolete. It hasn't happened but it will.