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[-] Jhogenbaum@leminal.space 3 points 6 months ago

If I am reading this headline and understanding the article correctly, "yes they're on a power trip it seems" But... You can be charged with "x" and then found Innocent months later... Which, I think is slow, but at least it's "working" under the f'd up faulty system we (or in this case, TN) have in place.

You can be CHARGED with any kinda bs and be innocent, yes. Me personally, I've been charged with crimes, I've been ticketed unjustly, and usually had some recourse. In Europe I got tickets once and had no recourse whatsoever (a blitzer got me, but I was driving a friend's car).

[-] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Issue is that there is no real recourse for you to take against the incompetent power tripping cops, and the arrest itself shows up on your police record and you have to go pay money to get it expunged.

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

(Non american here) could you even get out of paying? I imagine refusing to pay for months would get you thrown in jail, re-fined or have your license taken away. And once you finally are proven innocent getting any money back from a beurocracy is slightly harder than getting blood from a stone.

[-] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

You misunderstand, you're paying to get the unjust arrest struck from your police record so it doesn't fuck you when trying to get hired places.

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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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