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You can use it without nextcloud. That's entirely optional and exists only if you want to sync between antennapod and pinepods. If you're only using Pinepods you don't need that at all and syncing time between devices works totally fine.
Yeah I get it, thanks. I just already use Antennapod and like it a lot. I will check Pinepods out, perhaps it's already good enough that I would be OK giving up Antennapod, if not then installing Nextcloud to get this sync functionality between devices.