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Why?

Even though green coffee beans tend to be heavier due to the higher water content, generally it's cheaper to roast your own compared to buying them pre-roasted.

You can roast the same beans at different levels to get some variety without having to go out and buy a new batch.

It's kind of fun and a decent conversation topic.

Notes

Don't be scared by how long this post is. It basically just comes down to spread beans on a cookie sheet, put in preheated oven, wait around 12-15 minutes and then take them out and cool them.

Since we're talking about roasting beans, naturally you're going to need a grinder to actually use them.

The process will create some smoke, even with a light roast. Basically, darker roast, more smoke. So far I've mainly done pretty light roasts and even though my kitchen doesn't have much ventilation (and my oven doesn't have fancy modern contraptions like, you know, a light or a fan) it hasn't been an issue.

Your oven should be reasonably clean if you don't want the roasted coffee to taste like random stuff.

If you're a super coffee snob and it has to be perfect, this may not be for you. It's pretty easy, but odds are the first few tries aren't going to be perfect especially if you like darker roasts.

You're going to want something like a large metal mixing bowl and colander for the cooling process. My colander is plastic, so you can probably get away with that if you don't put the red hot beans in it directly out of the oven.

You'll also probably need access to an outside area where bits of coffee chaff blowing around aren't going to bother people. I don't think there's really an easy way to deal with coffee chaff indoors.

By the way, don't try to grind green coffee beans in a normal grinder. They are insanely, and I mean insanely hard and tough. You'll destroy your grinder unless it is an absolute tank. (I'd say it's also not really worth trying, green coffee didn't taste very good to me.)

How

Here's the process:

  1. Start preheating your oven to 500f/260c. (Some people say as hot as possible, some people use a slightly lower temperature like 460-475f.)
  2. Get a cookie sheet ready. Just a standard cookie sheet. Mine aren't super clean so I put a layer of silver foil on it. Don't preheat the cookie sheet itself.
  3. Measure out about 1 cup of green coffee beans. (I've found you can fit about 2 cups on a single sheet but it's probably better to start small.) You want to make sure the beans are spread out evenly in a single layer.
  4. Look for beans that are discolored/damaged and toss them away. Don't be a perfectionist though, just get rid of 10-15 of the worst looking beans. Something like that.
  5. Place the cookie sheet in the oven once it's reached the correct temperature. I put mine on the bottom rack near the (electric) heating element. If you're going for a darker roast, I guess this might make burning them more likely.
  6. Set a timer for ~12 minutes. I wouldn't recommend roasting longer than 14 minutes your first time.
  7. Now you wait a bit. Probably around the 8 minute mark, you're going to start hearing sharp cracking/popping sounds. Don't worry, the beans won't jump around like popcorn and the sound is fairly loud so you're not likely to miss it. At this point (or in 1-2 minutes) you can remove the beans and have a light roast. This point is known as the "first crack".
  8. After a couple of minutes, the sounds will die off and you won't hear anything for a little bit. If you keep roasting, you'll start to hear a softer, more muted crackling sound start. This is the "second crack". I would not recommend roasting past this point until you're comfortable with the process and have an idea of how roasted the beans are at this point. If you roast much longer, it's very easy to burn them and there's also going to be a lot more smoke.
  9. Remove the beans from the oven. You can let them rest for 1-2 minutes on the cookie sheet if you want, then transfer to something like a metal mixing bowl. It has to be something that can deal with 500f stuff touching its surface.
  10. Ideally get another mixing bowl/colander/whatever as well. Pouring the beans back and forth through the air is a good way to cool them off and remove chaff. What's chaff you ask? The beans are coated with a papery layer of chaff. Don't worry though, once they're roasted it's really easy to remove. You want to try to cool off the beans pretty quickly at this point.
  11. Go outside and blow gently on the roasted beans in your bowl. You should see a bunch of super light, papery chaff fly out. You can pour the hot beans from one bowl to another, and if there's a bit of a breeze that'll help a lot. Otherwise, you can just blow on them. You could also stir them around with a wooden spoon or something to encourage the chaff to separate.
  12. Once the chaff is mostly gone (it's fine if there's a little left, or little pieces stuck to some beans) and the beans are fairly cool you can just leave them in a safe place for around 12 hours to fully cool and vent CO2. Don't put them in a sealed container for the first 12-ish hours.

Conclusion

One thing to note is you don't want to actually grind/use the beans for at least 12 hours. It might seem unintuitive, but from what I've read as freshly roasted as possible isn't necessarily best. Depending on the beans/roast level, the coffee might reach its optimal tastiness even a couple weeks after roasting.

I'm far from an expert, but feel free to ask questions in the comments if you want. I can recommend a grinder/beans to get started with if anyone needs information like that.

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[-] eramseth@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Not to be a downer, but you're gonna get a lot of smoke roasting beans in your electric oven (gas would have an exhaust to the outside). That smoke really isn't good for you to breathe in either. Prolonged exposure will lead to "popcorn lung". It's also going to make your stove very dirty in the inside in short fashion. Also, you're gonna melt some plastic colanders if you drop coffee beans into them right out of a 400-500 degree oven. Not to mention that plastic + heat = not good (even without the melting)

If you want to try roasting coffee beans at home once or twice on the cheap, you're better off "pan roasting" them outside on a camp stove or something similar if you don't have an exhaust fan right above your stove that connects to outside.

Specialized at-home electric roasters exist and aren't that expensive. Certainly cheaper than smoke mitigation.

[-] Kerfuffle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

but you’re gonna get a lot of smoke roasting beans in your electric oven

There's really not much smoke with light/medium roasts. My kitchen is pretty small and there's a smoke alarm on the wall that doesn't even get set off. For dark roasts it could be a bigger issue.

Prolonged exposure will lead to “popcorn lung”.

There's 5-10 minutes at most when the beans will actually be smoking and you're not going to be roasting every day. 2 cups of green beans makes about a pint jar of roasted coffee. I drink a pot of coffee every day and it lasts more than a week.

Also, you’re gonna melt some plastic colanders if you drop coffee beans into them right out of a 400-500 degree oven.

I specifically said not to do that. :)

If you want to try roasting coffee beans at home once or twice on the cheap, you’re better off

Have you ever actually done it? Not to be confrontational, but I think you're really overestimating the issues. Also, if someone is just doing it once or twice, then long term effects like "popcorn lung" aren't going to matter.

[-] eramseth@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yes I used to roast at home several times a week on a Behmor machine. There's a reason all the at-home machines (and commercial machines for that matter) have smoke suppression...

Edit to add that I started with a popcorn popper (which is the usual entry into the hobby) then built a roaster out of a heat gun and a flour sifter before I went on to get the Behmor. All of my roasting was done outside or in the garage with fume hood and exhaust fan.

Do whatever you like but there's a reason there are things like occupational safety regulations and the like.

[-] Kerfuffle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Yes I used to roast at home several times a week on a Behmor machine.

Did you try other methods like oven roasting them though? If not, it may be hard to compare.

There’s a reason all the at-home machines (and commercial machines for that matter) have smoke suppression…

Well sure, obviously it's a useful feature. The fact that a feature exists doesn't mean it's absolutely necessary and you can't live without it, though.

Also, like I mentioned, darker roasts are going to produce more smoke. A lot of people do like dark roasts. I advised using a light or medium roast in my initial post though. Basically, people can try it out and experiment, see what levels of smoke/etc they're comfortable with. Maybe they'll find that their preferred roast level produces too much smoke — that's certainly possible. Someone who wants to give it a shot doesn't have to commit to roasting their own coffee for the rest of their life.

[-] eramseth@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I remember the inventor of the Behmor machine saying that the smoke suppression was required by regulation of some sort... ao yeah they are kinda necessary in a sense.

Like I said, do whatever you like, but I advise against roasting coffee indoors without an exhaust fan that dumps the exhaust outside, at minimum.

[-] Kerfuffle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

I remember the inventor of the Behmor machine saying that the smoke suppression was required by regulation of some sort…

They say technically correct is the best kind of correct!

A coffee roasting machine has to be able to handle basically whatever people do with it: dark roasts, light roasts, small enclosed spaces, whatever.

Like I said, do whatever you like, but I advise against roasting coffee indoors without an exhaust fan that dumps the exhaust outside, at minimum.

I just haven't seen enough smoke to be concerned. Maybe my experience is abnormal, I don't know. It's not even like the oven was full of super dense smoke or anything, but keep in mind the only smoke that's really going to come out is what drifts out naturally for the < 10 minutes the beans are roasting and the 10 seconds the oven door is open.

Now if you're roasting well past the second crack then certainly that might change things but I usually prefer pretty light roasts. I took my current batch out right at the beginning of the first crack. There was virtually no smoke at all. Of course, you too should do what you like: though I'd respectfully suggest that maybe you shouldn't be super confident about the effects if you haven't actually tried this approach yourself.

[-] CosmoVerde@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

That’s not how you get Popcorn Lung.

[-] eramseth@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

During coffee production of both flavored and unflavored coffee, production employees become exposed to dangerous VOCs resulting in irreversible lung damage (Ref. 1). The most hazardous VOCs released from flavorings and naturally from roasting coffee beans are diacetyl and 2,3-pentanedione. Exposure to even small amounts over time or large concentrations over a short period of time can have drastic health effects (Ref. 2).

https://www.sentryair.com/blog/industry-applications/chemical-solvents/diacetyl-hazards-coffee-roasting-industry/

(Yes I know they're trying to sell you air filtration systems or whatever... but they reference several scientific studies in their literature)

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