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Bluesky is part of the fediverse. Isn't it?
They built their own protocol which interacts with nothing else.
They don't speak the same language as Lemmy and Mastodon, so can't really federate with anyone else at the moment
@lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com Diaspora don't speak the same language either yet we consider it part of the fedi. It's one of the OGs that refused to adopt ActivityPub.
They use the AT protocol, whereas the real fediverse uses activitypub. Also, to my knowledge there is currently only one instance that uses the AT protocol: bsky.social.
Your knowledge is wrong. They opened up federation in February. There’s currently people from fedi that have Atproto PDS
Do you have any links? I was unable to find any. Also if you don't mind, what is the benefit to running one's own BlueSky instance when instance owners don't control the moderation?
People would run their own PDS for a couple of reasons, build their own communities, host their own data, their own moderation practices & policies, and maybe they don’t want the “big world” view
https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/22/bluesky-opens-up-federation-letting-anyone-run-their-own-server/amp/
https://bsky.social/about/blog/02-22-2024-open-social-web
I meant links to instances not owned by the main company. Are there any?
Can you give a more detailed explanation why Activitypup is garbage? And why AT should be any better?
ActivityPub is not garbage, it’s just missing important aspects. Atproto is good that users get a global view, identity isn’t tethered to a PDS, custom feeds and not at the whims of an admin that can sever any relationships they have or that can delete their account.
Some people don't like ActivityPub because it allows mods/admins to remove their content. If you are the sort of person who believes that a moderator moderating content is "censorship" then the AT protocol is a lot more appealing.
Well, yeah. There are a few interoperable protocols but activitypub is certainly the major mover and shaker. Friendica and Diaspora doggedly stick to their own protocols afaik but they manage to still federate to the larger fediverse.
@halm@leminal.space Diaspora only federates with Friendica (because the latter has diaspora protocol support). Friendica doesn't have its "own protocol", it uses ActivityPub with its own proprietary extensions IIRC.