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In short, we aren't on track to an apocalyptic extinction, and the new head is concerned that rhetoric that we are is making people apathetic and paralyzes them from making beneficial actions.

He makes it clear too that this doesn't mean things are perfectly fine. The world is becoming and will be more dangerous with respect to climate. We're going to still have serious problems to deal with. The problems just aren't insurmountable and extinction level.

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[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

Hey jackass, people aren't apathetic because they believe it's too late to do anything. People are apathetic because people like you haven't done anything and now it's too late. The "beneficial actions" you are calling for are half measures that won't help at all, and the people who care are already doing what they can while the real polluters, the real destroyers of humanity, are building bunkers and hoarding gold to survive the coming storm.

[-] Ertebolle@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, any solution to climate change that relies on people of good faith coming together across national boundaries to solve our global problems is a bunch of pie-in-the-sky horseshit and most definitely not something to pin the future of humanity on.

The only thing that's actually going to reduce greenhouse emissions is cost savings; focus on that, build your models around what we can convince people to do with that, then figure out how to save as much of the human race and the natural world as possible in a scenario where we do fuck-all about climate change except when by doing so it makes some rich asshole slightly richer.

[-] volodymyr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What are people of good faith going to do about even a small fraction of those who disagree?

[-] JustAManOnAToilet@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is where the Porsche fuels come into play beautifully. They capture carbon from the atmosphere to be the carbon in the fuel therefore once run through an engine the emissions are a net zero. And they can run in regular gasoline engines, and is shown to be roughly the same cost of production as current gasoline.

[-] Ertebolle@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

If they actually get the cost down to that point then yes, it'll be fantastic, but IIRC they're not close to there yet - it's just a hopeful projection.

[-] doppelgangmember@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Once the cheap/free labor runs out then socialist programs can flourish because they will have too.

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