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I’m not even American, so it doesn’t affect me directly, but I am scared to death of a Trump presidency.

I am one of those people here who think that Biden is a far more competent executor of imperialist policies compared to Trump, but what I am even more afraid of is the early death of nascent left wing movements in America.

I am reminded of how the KPD getting its leaders murdered by Freikorps thugs during the Spartacist uprising (mind you, a much stronger party than any leftist movement in America today), and how its continued suppression paved the way to Nazi Germany.

Project 2025 will effectively embolden fascist thugs in America to do the same to the left wing movements, many of which are still in their cradle, and the death of leftist movements in their infancies will inevitably pave the way to a fascist America and undo many of the progress that had been made over decades.

The world cannot afford a fascist America. Imagine Hitler with nukes. The world will have to pay a much, much larger price as a result.

On this reasoning alone, I believe that Trump needs to be stopped at all cost. But many here have disagreed with me, and I need you to persuade me why I shouldn’t be afraid of Project 2025 at all. Even if the chance of that happening is 10%, I’m still not ready to gamble with it.

(I’m not saying we have to support Biden, I believe it is somewhat inevitable, I’m saying that we have to buy ourselves as much time as possible, even if it means strategic voting, to build a resilient leftist movement while delaying the inevitable for as long as we can.)

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[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If your saying scientists and regulators are non political you've clearly shown you aren't worth talking to.

I'm not. "Non-political employees" is just a legal definition, but its the alleged rubicon that's got all the liberals shitting themselves because its literally their jobs.

You're trying to argue against a point I'm not making. Please actually read my responses before you go on a rant or find an actual liberal to argue with.

Edit: my man, you already demonstrated that you completely understand and agree with me in this comment chain. But for some reason in this chain you think I'm making a completely different point.