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[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
[-] 3volver@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Communism is something different, that's not what I'm asking about.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

What are you referring to? Something less right wing than Liberalism, but not able to be considered left?

Edit: for clarity, how would you legally distinguish any flavor of anticapitalism based on the nature of the law? The Democrats are already called Communists, if a genuine Socialist party took any meaningful amount of power they could be shut down on the basis of that law, because it's just a vibe.

[-] 3volver@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Progressivism, I wrote "Progressive" right in the title. I did not write "Communist" which is completely different.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

What is progressivism then, and how is it legally distinct from what that law outlaws?

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

People are downvoting you because capitalism is the biggest obstacle to progress.

Is there anything in the PSL's mission statement or program that you either disagree with or don't consider progress?

[-] AAA@feddit.de -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The defense of the revolutionary government will be organized on the basis of the armed, organized working class. All foreign military bases will be closed immediately.

I have no idea how that would be considered progress. The population of the USA is armed to the teeth already. Giving the same people the role of the defender of the government sound a lot like self-justice or mob-rule.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago

That was explained earlier in the program:

A state and government “of, by and for” the workers must replace the capitalist state. The foundation of any state power is repressive force—the military, police, prisons, courts and so on. The standing army and police must be disbanded and replaced by the armed people, organized in workers’ defense councils. A critical task of the new socialist order will be defending itself from the displaced capitalist class that would like to return to the days of exploitation. A workers’ government would create an entirely different type of court system, with its basic institutions determined by the democratic organs of workers’ power. Judges would not be required to be lawyers. All public officials, without exception, would be elected and subject to recall at any time by those who elected them.

It's certainly not self-justice. Mob-rule is just a term liberals use to justify anti-democratic mechanisms to protect their own power.

[-] AAA@feddit.de -1 points 3 months ago

Thanks. But no thanks for the downvotes. When asking to be questioned, expect to be questioned.

And mob-rule is not a just a term invented by the liberals. But because a group of vigilantes took matters into their own hands - by arming themselves.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

Yes it can mean that, but that's almost never what is referred to when liberals bring it up as a reason for our institutions to be less democratic.

You can go all the way back to the founding fathers for that one.

When asking to be questioned, expect to be questioned.

It wasn't for questioning, it was because you didn't at least skim the article for anything pertaining to your question.

But honestly even opening link and scrolling to the bottom of the pamphlet is still better than 99% of exchanges like this so if I was grading on a curve, you'd still get an upvote.

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