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My Android phone fucking blows. The one I had prior was great but I lost it. I hate the constant alerts from the apps I can't delete, I can't take up close photos anymore without it looking like shit and not focusing, the screen will flip horizontal at random times when it's got the lock screen option turned on. I don't want a Google phone, though.
Anyone have opinions on the OnePlus phones?
Apps you can't delete? Gotta be Samsung?
Pixels have about 25-30 Google apps that you can't delete.
I used to have a Samsung Galaxy S6, I rooted it so I could remove the facebook app... turned out they built a custom circuit in a little chip that permanently breaks NFC if you rooted it. Ridiculous.
Why would you even bother doing this instead of simply permanently disabling it using the built in features?
Some apps can't even be disabled (including via adb).
Such as?
I found not being able to remove the app frustrating, and wanted to go further than disable it. My thinking was, it's my phone, I want it setup my way, and I don't want bloat... especially facebook bloat on the phone.
Once it’s disabled it may as well be not there.
If it’s anything like any of my Samsung phones I’ve had, Facebook isn’t actually installed - the icon is just a stub. Opening it takes you to the store to download the actual app. Might be different where you are or if you bought a carrier phone though, I only ever buy outright from manufacturers or stores, never carrier.
Yep, I hate it so much
You can adb disable them. Not the same as a full removal, if you wipe/reset the phone they come back, but for most purposes they're effectively gone. Do a backup first, if you remove one too many or the wrong one, and other apps might start crashing.
At that point just use a custom os like Lineage or something
just...disable it after deleting updates!
You can disable alerts on a per app basis
I've done that before but after updates it seems to reset for some reason? Having to do it over and over is frustrating, unless I'm missing something which is not outside the realm of possibility
Look into a Nothing Phone as well as you look.
I'm biased but I like my Pixel 7 Pro quite a bit, though the Pixel 7 is also good.
Doesn't really matter if it's a Google phone or not though: They track you the exact same unless you fully rip out all Google Services, which also means ripping out all banking apps and the Play store.
Yeah, that's a good point. I feel like in terms of tracking you have to unplug completely to be successful. No Square card readers, no social media, no Google anything, not to mention having to vet every service you use which doesn't feel like it would be worth it.
Had a OnePlus for quite a while, battery was pretty bad and heated up like crazy.
Sounds like a defective battery. It happens. Mine works fine.
I have a oneplus. Zero bloatware. The only downside is that the pictures are not as pretty as apple, that's about it.
I've been using oneplus phones for years and theyre awesome but I'm not running the oxygenOS that it comes with, I'm running lineageOS or other AOSP type of roms.
Haven't messed with the stock oxygen (I think it's called ColorOS now?) in a while, but maybe will check it out. Far as I knew it didn't really come with any bloat ware?
OnePlus used to be good and reasonably priced, now it's just another also-ran at the same price point as everything else.
oneplus has its own sort of problems
I've heard ram management sucks on oneplus 11 with 12 GB ram because they keep killing apps in background to preserve battery(even after using the phone for weeks so it should've adapted)
you should give grapheneos on pixel a try I'm using it on pixel 7 and all the apps that I use work(mostly, only bank apps have problems, check this user contributed list for verified bank apps https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/