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[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.de 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

And now explain to me, what psychological tricks Minecraft uses that make you addicted to it.

[–] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

At first I thought it had to do with lootbox mechanics and scheduling and reward system gaming, but nope, this one was straight up just "he played vidja too much and I'm afraid of him when I take away his games"

[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

One is multiple parallel goals. Makes it hard to stop playing, since there's always something you just want to finish or do "quickly".

Say you want to build a house. Chop some trees, make some walls. Oh, need glass for windows. Shovel some sand, make more furnaces, dig a room to put them in - oh, there's a cave with shiny stuff! Quickly explore a bit. Misstep, fall, zombies, dead. You had not placed a bed yet, so gotta run. Night falls. Dodge spiders and skeletons. Trouble finding new house. There it is! Venture into the cave again to recover your lost equipment. As you come up, a creeper awaitsssss you ...

Another mechanism is luck. The world is procedurally generated, and you can craft and create almost anything anywhere. Except for a few things, like spawners. I once was lucky to have two skeleton spawners right next to each other, not far from the surface. In total, I probably spent hours in later worlds to find a similar thing.

The social aspect can also support that you play the game longer or more than you actually would like. Do I lose my "friends" when I stop playing their game?

I don't think Minecraft does these things in any way maliciously, it's just a great game. But nevertheless, it has a couple of mechanics which can make it addictive and problematic.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The social aspect can also support that you play the game longer or more than you actually would like.

This is the part of any online game I absolutely hate. The feeling of being even slightly beholden to someone else, like now I have to think about them having a good time too.

Games that forbid direct communication, and allow you to drop in and out of a match without hurting others feel a bit better in this respect imho

[–] millie@beehaw.org 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Isn't that more of just part of interacting with people, though?

Like, if you play some kind of real-life game with no regard for anyone else, that's generally considered poor sportsmanship. That wasn't invented in online gaming, it's been a concern as long as people have been coming up with games to play together. We accept that if you sit down and play a game of chess or golf or pool or D&D or paintball, you're going to try to not cheat or blow the game off or be a jerk about it. Some people are better sports than others, but the general idea is that we accept the wins and losses and the game going in different directions, because otherwise there's no game.

What's an aberration is this concept that people you meet with over an electronic connection aren't real, don't matter, and are never owed anything.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What's an aberration is this concept that people you meet with over an electronic connection aren't real, don't matter, and are never owed anything.

What you said is all true, but what I'm saying is precisely the opposite of this. I don't like playing certain games with others because I empathise with others and want them to have a good time.

So I usually avoid games (video and otherwise) that are designed so that my continued enthusiastic participation are required for the enjoyment of others. To me, that doesn't feel like play; it feels like work.

I'll do it, but it's exhausting. Maybe it's an introvert thing, because I'll come away from those games feeling completely drained.

Note I'm not saying those games are bad, just that i hate them. At least, if my social battery is already used up for the week (which it usually is just from regular life).

[–] millie@beehaw.org 2 points 7 months ago

Ahh, that makes sense!

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

In the case of Minecraft the issues you listed are pretty much present in almost anything entertaining, video games or not, including in-person events and social functions.

As with anything moderation is key and people just need to learn not to let it control them. Some people are incapable of that though.

There are definitely certain things that game companies need to avoid doing but multiple goals, a little bit of luck, and online cooperative play is not it.