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Well yeah, they didn’t have the same budget.
Mechanically I still think DOS2 is superior to BGIII, mainly due to not being weighed down by the clunky tabletop mechanics. Not saying BGIII is bad, but it would’ve (in my opinion) been better without the DND rubbish.
Personally, I think the presentation is what sets BG3 apart. I agree that D:OS2 has a more fun combat system, but that's not really the key to mainstream appeal.
Stuff like zoomed in dialogues with actual motion capture and visible facial expressions really pulls you in in a way zoomed out isometric dialogue presentations never can.
Maybe a better game, but definitely not as successful. Between the movie coming out the same year and Stranger Things and Critical Role (and their Amazon show) and what have you, D&D was already in the zeitgeist. It was absolutely an important aspect of BG3 hitting that mainstream success, imo.
It is primarily the combat system I'm talking about though. I would've loved to see BDIII but with DOS general combat and combat movement. I don't care for the "does 1d4 lightning damage" stuff.
I'm obviously not saying that DOSII had the better dialogue and quest systems. BGIII is obviously rooted in the same engine and tech as DOSII, but it's been built upon wonderfully. I enjoy BGIII, and Larian has once again done an excellent job. I just think DOSII was the better game on a mechanical level, disregarding the story/graphics/tech, etc.
Oh I agree with you there. Combat was more fun in DOS2 (though it got ridiculous at times).
I prefer BG3, as DOS2 has the awkward separate armour systems - so you're forced to either target physical or magical armour specifically.
Also BG3 has Baldur's Gate which is awesome with all the city quests, etc. - lot of quests you can do entirely with stealth.
I don't think I was clear enough. I think DOSII was better mechanically, not from a story/quest/graphics perspective. I'm not saying BGIII was bad in any way, it's an amazing game, and it's very clear that a lot of love was put into it from everyone that contributed, but I overall feel like D:OS II had the better game mechanics. I liked the action point system for moving and attacking, I liked that you could save up action points to unleash more on later turns. I don't care too much for the behind-the-scenes dice rolls - though the big roll X to pass check is quite fun.
The voice cast also did such an amazing job. I've been playing Warframe a lot lately, and it's really fun to hear Astarion as a fish.
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