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PlEaSe CeNtEr ThAt DiV (lemmy.world)

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[-] mtchristo@lemm.ee 58 points 1 year ago

The web is beyond bloated.

The heavy reliance on JavaScript has suck the joy out of browsing the web for me

[-] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 49 points 1 year ago

I'd say the over exploitation of JavaScript to leverage tracking, interaction and marketing has helped create the poor experiences we now have on web. The underlying technology when used for creating interactive and helpful UIs is very beneficial

[-] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

I rotate between 4 websites for content essentially.

[-] grue@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Web pages are supposed to be hypertext documents, not "interactive... UIs!"

[-] flower3@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So I should download an app for everything beyond that?

[-] grue@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're "downloading an app" anyway, even if it's JavaScript running in a browser. How do you think the client-side code gets to the client‽

But yes, I think we need a new version of something like Java Web Start, except with the ability to steam parts of itself as-needed instead of having to download the entire .jar before being able to run. If you're going to have an app, have an app that has proper libraries for the UI etc. instead of hacking everything on top of a whole bunch of DOM cruft!

I guess WebAssembly is a step in the right direction, but it's still too tied to the document viewer known as a "web browser," for no good reason.

[-] swordsmanluke@programming.dev 38 points 1 year ago

May I introduce you to the Gemini project?

It's a new(ish) protocol for sharing interlinked text documents. It's intended to sit between Gopher and HTML in terms of complexity and is deliberately, aggressively simple (some might even say crippled) with the intention that it will be nearly impossible to extend the protocol for surveillance capitalism. It's not trying to replace ye olde WWW, but to provide a human-focused place for text-first, 90's-style sites to live. ...just without the blink tags.