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[–] deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Think about it....

Put yourself in the POV of one of those ultranationalistic German clowns in that period:

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You've lost the war against the "untermensch", and you believe economic opportunity is just one of your worries

(maybe your brother was deployed to Belarus for some "soldier work" prbly got sentenced to hang or go to gulag and you might meet a similar penal result, if not the country itself),

Either way, with most of your Eastern Germany being underdeveloped as fuck and already ravaged by war, not to mention the reparations of Soviet Union demanded from you and the radical change of your society from a Hitlerite one to a Brotherly Socialist one, you probably had a bit of mindbreak....

Just remember that Germany as a whole nation was only united recently years ago in 1871, so to see this all, as an of course, a very ultranationalistic German, would probably break your brain....

Compared this to the more-untouched and modernized West Germany, which still is in good shape in the Allied hands... and hasn't been forced to change much of its ranks from the Nazi era, you'd probably want to flee there too...

Tl;dr: it could be the fact that the sweeping societal whiplash transforming from to Hitlerite to a brotherly Socialist country and its ramifications could prbly do something with it...

But I mean, not all Germans in the Eastern part prbly share the same idea of fleeing the country, but yk, a new German people wasn't born without birthmarks of the old horrible Nazi Germany, whose anti-communist ideas had probably been imprinted long on some of them heavily....

[–] Poogona@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is kinda what I said, good to know my instincts were reaching in the right direction at least. I still hate how insipid and simplistic an idea it is to say "the wall was to keep people IN" that these people treat like sage wisdom

[–] deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I mean, use their logic against them...

You know, if these same ppl say "oh Palestine should given wholly to the Israelis, because their ancestors got killed by the German Nazis"

Say "The German people deserved to get their government purged and replaced with a whole new Socialist German Republic, for what they've done in the Holocaust, et so forth..."