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[-] elvis_depresley@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

roads and car infrastructure costs money to maintain, but anyone wealthy enough to buy a car can use it for free

[-] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

> anyone wealthy enough to buy a car can use it for free

Anyone with a car is paying additional taxes for fuel and car registration.

[-] Nurgle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Those typically don’t cover all of transportation dept budgets, and fuel taxes are on the permanent decline.

[-] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ticket prices don't cover the full costs of train infrastructure and maintenance either. The point is the statement "anyone wealthy enough to buy a car can use it for free" is demonstrably false and using a demonstrably false statement as a counterpoint is...inadvisable.

[-] Nurgle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Felt there was an implicit understanding that cars need gas, but yeah that’s fair.

[-] elvis_depresley@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I should have specified “… can use the infrastructure for free”. The car will cost money, but you can only use it because everyone subsidises roads, bridges, parking and much more.

[-] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Car drivers are demonstrably paying taxes for the ability to drive on public roads, they are demonstrably not "using the infrastructure for free". They pay taxes for every mile they drive on a public road. Gas is taxed and cars have regular registration taxes.

[-] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Not to mention, roads are also used for logistics.

[-] elvis_depresley@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

fuel tax in the US is a joke, in Europe it’s higher but still doesn’t cover anywhere near the infrastructure cost.

This video illustrates it nicely.

[-] user75736572@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Ther's ussually tolls there too

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