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submitted 7 months ago by redfox@infosec.pub to c/world@lemmy.world

Not sure if this was already posted.

The article describes the referenced court case, and the artist's views and intentions.

Personally, I both loved and hated the idea at first. The more I think about it, the more I find it valuable in some way.

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[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 4 points 7 months ago

A good litmus test says you think sexism doesn’t exist and are, therefore, a dumbasshole.

So, if I say that sexism is not good, even in art, then I say sexism doesn't exist and am therefore an asshole? Well, in that case I propose that whatever group you feel attached to should be denied access to any healthcare, and if you think that's any form of *ism than I say you're stupid. That does look very weird, does it?

You fundamentally don't understand the issue here. You have your gut feeling of "sexism against women bad, art good", which is not even wrong in principle, but you take that to the extreme by saying "every art roughly aiming in the general direction of sexism is good" - and that's bad. Even worse is, that you accuse everyone who disagrees of being the most vile sexist ever.

[-] eatthecake@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

So, if I say that sexism is not good, even in art, then I say sexism doesn’t exist and am therefore an asshole?

What?

[-] eatthecake@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

What does healthcare have to do with it? Denying healthcare is never art, in my opinion.

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 6 points 7 months ago

It's art to me. Are you the authority on art now?

[-] eatthecake@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago

Denying healthcare is art to you? Seriously? Hahahaha I've always hated modern so called art but that really takes the cake. You're not even trying to make the slightest bit of sense lol

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 3 points 7 months ago

I'm trying to show you the limits of your argument. And you don't even see it.

[-] eatthecake@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago

You might as well complain that learning about slavery hurts the feelings of white children. Women will talk about and argue against sexism snd misogyny and your complaints will only serve to remind us that our talk is justified and necessary.

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago

The equivalent would be to enslave white children to show them what slavery is.

Seriously, why do you think it's okay to discriminate against people as retaliation? How do you think that helps anyone? Do you really think, a misogynist will stand in front of this art gallery and reflect whether women might actually be real humans after all? What's happening is, that a bunch of selfrighteous pseudo-intellectuals will jerk each other off on how progressive and artsy they are, and a bunch of actual misogynists have even more fuel for their crowd to stoke their hate. Wow. What a win for everyone involved. Alienation of former allies and even more hate. A true victory.

[-] eatthecake@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Maybe it's like the soup throwers, any publicity is good publicity. Actual misogynists are beyond help, especially help from women. They hate us and there's no changing that so there's no point trying with them. But we can reach out to each other and support each other. Me Too certainly made me feel less alone and had a marked impact on my mental health surrounding sexual assault.

This whole incident is just trolling I guess, and it's hilarious because conservatives are always complaining that women are sensitive snowflakes but when we turn it around y'all can't take it.

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de -1 points 7 months ago

But it's not good publicity, just like the soup throwing is not food publicity.

Everyone already knows about both problems and everyone who wants to have an opinion already has one. But those who are on the fence about it, will be alienated by this.

Such an action might have been a reasonable publicity stunt in the 20s, but definitely not today.

[-] eatthecake@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

Anyone on the fence about feminism is an enemy. The fact that we have rapist influencers is proof of the need for feminism. Also, it is the 20's. And maybe you aren't the target audience. Maybe women are doing this for themselves.

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