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both Trump and Biden should do the right thing and step aside
Biden is using the fall of Roe v. Wade to raise funds and he signed some executive order on women's health research or something that amounts to very little when he could have used the same amount of energy and paper restoring women's rights
Trump did nothing to advance the country forward and is fund raising on extreme far right comments such as christian ideologies
not allowed to vote but if was allowed to definitely would not vote for either corporate owned party
Saying that Trump did nothing to help the country and that he should not run again is being a sycophant?
I wish you were correct, but you aren't. The left is famous for its identity politics, which is precisely an in-group/out-group game. Also, the left is just as bad as the right when it comes to lacking nuance and brigading people who express ideas that the hive mind doesn't like.
I would say that a very vocal, but hopefully tiny, minority on the left are very much caught up in that. Not all of us are. Unfortunately, in some venues/platforms they have utterly captured the mods, and in some cases, have completely destroyed any reasonable discussion (an example I've mentioned before is Boing Boing's comment section - it's reached cartoonish levels, and I've mostly stopped reading Boing Boing in recent years as a result. It's almost a self-parody, not even joking.). I think the impression is that there are many more of these types of leftists than there really are.
You're getting hate but you're absolutely right
I love the left and I don't want Trump to put us all in concentration camps more than anyone else does. But even that being the case, I've been yelled at much more by people on the left for having an "incorrect" opinion than I have from the right.
Thanks, you summed it up nicely. I'm very committed, both personally and professionally, to the left in terms of social policy, but I recognize our tendency towards tribalism, doctrinaire language policing, and groupthink.
Also, you nailed it when you said that one of main differences between left and right is their degree of earnestness. Anyone who has watched the development of identity politics since the 1990s can recognize that the right is now just doing a bad imitation of the left's rhetorical tactics. That's why they seem disingenuous: because most of them are acting out their impression of the so-called "radical left", but from the other side.
Whether you agreed with them or not, the right used to pride themselves on being the sober, fiscally conservative, "responsible", establishment people, while the left were the loud, obnoxious ones screaming about identity and shaming normal people for their supposed "privilege".
The rise of the Tea Party marks the beginning of the right-wing adoption of these left-wing identity politics tactics. The right has now become a radical reactionary movement rather than the small-c fiscal conservatives of the past. Watching the nuttiness on the right makes me think that the transformation happened largely because many middle- and working-class whites now see themselves as victims of the same race-based persecution that the left correctly complained about for decades, so they've just leaned into it.
All of this reminds me of Foucault's assertion that ideologies are not about right and wrong, but rather about power. That's why we are in the middle of a culture war. Of course, we can't let the oligarchs, the fascists, or the Christian Nationalists win, but the left is not entirely innocent either in the sense that we have demonized and alienated a very large segment of Western society. I don't absolve myself, either. I have railed against the right, especially the religious right, in the past just as hard as anyone.
actually not on either corporate party's side
bipartisan politics took my vote away so do not support either of those two parties
Did you know that Biden's corporate tax reforms at the beginning of 2023, meant that Amazon went from getting a $1.2 billion tax credit to again paying a billion dollars per quarter? And that it's now up to $3 billion per quarter, comfortably more than they've ever had to pay before? And that he's using those corporate tax increases to fund his big-ticket priorities like student loan forgiveness?
Me neither. I didn't know that shit at all, until a few days ago, when I was arguing with someone like you who was saying how much Biden loves the corporations.