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[-] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 56 points 7 months ago

This is bad news. FAST streaming is an ad-riddled nightmare. VLC already supports streaming video just fine. Native support for FAST services just means native support for ads.

VLC already includes support for IPTV streams and M3Us. If you want to load FAST channels, you can do that now using a playlist from here: https://github.com/iptv-org/iptv

You'll even get an ad-free / ad-reduced experience this way. FAST providers like Pluto and Tubi rebroadcast some TV channels and inject their own targeted ads. If you pipe the video stream into VLC, you'll just see "commercial break in progress" filler video instead of commercials. Try it out with a local news station, they are all almost completely add free this way.

Enjoy this while you can, I guess...

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 28 points 7 months ago

I mean it's just another format they'll be supporting. If you don't want to watch in that format, don't.

[-] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 months ago

FAST isn't a format, it's an integration. The format is streaming mpeg like everything else.

If FAST services want to be a part of VLC, they can just write their own extension.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

I mean it's just another service they'll be supporting. If you don't want to watch that service, don't.

Better?

[-] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 months ago

No, I don't want any pro-profit ad-supported services integrated directly into a critical FOSS project like VideoLAN. This is a form of enshittification. VLC should NEVER implement native support for targeted advertising. Pluto and Tubi are already cramming ads into my smart TV, they need to stay the fuck away from VLC's core code.

Freedom of choice is writing a channel service extension for VLC that I can install if I want to, not integrating non-free anti-consumer bullshit into the application itself.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -2 points 7 months ago

I really don't see how this is enshittification or anti-consumer. Nothing about your use of or experience of VLC changes if you simply don't use FAST streams. To me this seems similar to whether or not to ship patent encumbered codecs.

[-] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago

What if Disney wanted to integrate their own DRM support into the Linux Kernel so you could watch Disney Blu-Ray movies? Would you accept the "you don't have to watch Disney movies" justification?

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -4 points 7 months ago

I'd be fine with VLC having a way to watch proprietary Blu-Rays. I think it has that feature and it does seem useful for those who want to watch Disney Blu-Rays. VLC is supposed to be pretty much a swiss army knife of media players, after all.

If you wanted to compare to the kernel then best comparison would be to something like proprietary drivers or something.

[-] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago

We had to fight corporations for the right to decode DVDs and Blu-rays with FOSS software. This has been a major part of the software freedom movement. I don't want to see a deviation away from principles.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

There's room for both the principled take and the practicality. We have both FOSS distros and those that ship patent encumbered stuff and proprietary driver.

[-] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

And VideoLAN has been pricipled for nearly 15 years. I'd like to see them stay that way.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

VLC has been distributed with libdvdcss and patent incumbered codecs for ages.

Beware: VLC media player binaries are distributed with the libdvdcss library included.

I don't see this as at all different tbh

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