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Obesity has become the most common form of malnutrition in the majority of countries
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I keep getting into it with people I mostly agree with. Yes, it's fucked up that we add HFCS to everything and that corporations have weaponized addiction, but we can fight back.
This one irritates TF out of me.
Too many people who are outright unhealthy being told they're ok.
Overweight kids lead to sick adults.
Good thing in Ontario we have ol' Dougie fixing out healthcare system by privatizing the fuck out of it /s
Surely Pierre Pollieve will save us all when he's elected! /s
FML we are so lost.
Yeaaaah you’re probably getting into it cause your points don’t really have much merit and that can be frustrating. Like a simple look at when the obesity epidemic took off should have saved me from having to write this comment.
I've been about 160 lbs my entire adult life, last year I was getting close to 200 lbs and when my clothes stopped fitting I realized I needed to acknowledge my dietary choices. I'm not 25 or even 35 anymore so I had to figure things out and did some research on calorie management. I still eat pizza, burgers, drink beer, drink soda and enjoy candy. I'm just mindful of my calorie budget +/- 200.
This is my weight in kilos after peaking around 90 kgs last year I stopped recording my weight for a few months. Then I stuck to my "diet" and it wasn't crazy hard to manage. I'm not an athlete, in fact, I live a pretty sedentary life. These results are from saying no to snacks, avoiding potato chips, and grabbing two pieces of pizza and freezing the rest instead of eating the entire pie.
That’s great and I applaud you, seriously. But we mercilessly bullied fat people in the 80s, 90s, 00s and yet obesity skyrocketed. And you should probably consider what health (note not healthy) at every weight (HAES) actually is before dismissing it. Like we should encourage people to be healthy even if they’re overweight. This is like addiction, we’re not going to moral police our way out of this health issue.
Yeah, none of this is based in reality dude. Look at our movie stars, any magazine, and people on TV. This shit isn't normalized.
Yep, way to many people over eat, and it has nothing to do with what's in the food, people are just super seditaty these days and eat constantly.
Clicking the downvote button doesn't magically make me wrong. There is a reason that you can eat straight Twinkies for a month and watch the calories and still lose weight. You're not smarter than physics.
Bitching about down votes doesn't magically make you right. You're being downvoted because what you said is idiotic.
It has a lot to do with what's in the food. Sure, if you eat nothing but 1500 calories of Twinkies every day, when you were eating 3000 balanced calories, you'll lose weight.
That is about 12 Twinkies. Not even an entire box of Twinkies. And that's all you get to eat in a day.
It would be much easier to reduce calories if half of them were from vegetables and the other half from meat. Feeling hungry has a lot to do with why diets fail. You can't just apply physics to the human body and expect emotional and hormonal changes not to have an impact on the choices that human makes.
you're saying like eating twinkies is the only option. Veggies and meat are in every market. Are people generally this stupid that they think they have to only eat junk food?
I think SupraMario has a good point - people (over)eat and they sit all day, every day. Personally, I eat a shit ton - but I also burn a shit ton, about 900 calories extra daily through exercise. If i didn't exercise I would probably overeat, too. We need to get people off their asses.
73% of all of the food sold in the US is considered ultra processed, so no it's not just Twinkies, but at this point unless you're only buying neat and vegetables, you're buying something that is lower in nutrients and bound to make you feel more hungry than you would if you ate something nearly identical that you made yourself.
Getting up and moving is great, I'm not discounting exercise. You do not lose weight by exercising. You lose weight through diet control.
you lose weight by CICO. You either restrict calories in, or increase calories out, it does not matter.
agreed. But it's not too difficult - buy some zuchinni, potatoes, tomatoes, onion, garlic, eggplant - dice it up, put in a pan, salt, pepper, nutmeg, together with whole, skin on chicken, roast for 45 min and you have a delicious nutricious meal. It's literally 15 minutes of prep and it feeds a whole family at once. Everyone can do it. There's no need to buy any processed food.
See my first comment, applying physics to the human body and ignoring the hormonal and psychological impacts is going to lead to failure. It is much more like treating addiction than anything else.
Naa I'm being down voted because people want the easy way out, all the time. You're the same type that runs with the Healthy at any size. The same groups that promote that sudo science bullshit. No where did I say it was healthy to eat Twinkies and lose weight, but acting like people are fat because of the food that's offered is a fucking cop out.
Actual studies have been done on this. You're not only wrong but you're scientifically wrong.
https://clinicalcenter.nih.gov/about/news/newsletter/2019/summer/story-01.html#:~:text=This%20is%20the%20first%20study%20that%20shows%20causality%3A%20ultra%2Dprocessed,and%20they%20eat%20fewer%20calories.
Eating ultra processed foods are not only unhealthy, they also cause you to eat more than you would if you were eating exactly the same thing with real food.
An argument you'll note that is not only consistent with my guest comment, but actually argues for people doing more work than they're likely doing to lose weight.
Literally every point you made was incorrect.
The study also lasted 2 weeks and had less than 40 people in it. This is a bullshit study, we know people are going to eat ultra processed foods because it tastes good. Hell I'm guilty of it even, I will eat an entire pizza on my own if I don't stop myself. This study should say, people lack will power to not eat free fast food... it's a complete nothing burger of a study.
Ah yes, the age old, "I know better than an actual scientist because their science disagrees with my feelings"
No the age old, one study with no peer review and less than 50 people who were told to eat whatever they want is not an good study. It's a joke.
Buddy either you have hard data to back your claim or you don't. You're saying that diet has less impact on weight than exercise and that's literally false. It's the most wrong thing you could say and still sound like you're speaking English.
Where the fuck did I say that? I've literally said multiple times in this post that CICO is not rocket science. The fuck are you talking about? Go back and read what I've stated. No where did I say diet isn't more effective. I've literally states the opposite, people eat to much. Period. Even your own study shows that... people enjoy eating big macs more than healthy food....aka water is wet.
That's part of it but the deeper question is why are people more sedentary? Why do people eat more often?
What is it about our society that promotes eating more processed foods?
My feelings are that food for many people is a sedative for a stressful life. Sugar is a great drug to make you feel good temporarily.
Then there is very little quality education around good nutrition and cooking in the US. Most people just take what the learned from their parents and go with it. And if their parents weren't food smart then they probably will not be either.
there is a lot more to the obesity epidemic than just "stop eating so much"
There really isn't though, it's not rocket science. People just eat to damn much. Even the EU is having issues with it now. The UK is basically our fat neighbor at this point.
I run approx 5k a day because I overeat lol. Only way I keep from being 300 pounds.
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I envy you.
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You give me hope for my future if I don't burn out before then. I long for the small town life again as I get older.
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