Yea, the casualness makes the overbearing immature competative BS all the more obnoxious. It was nice back when it wasn't the only way to play 60% of games because multiplayer pvp was only people who actually wanted multiplayer pvp.

Though a lot of that is the online services crap. Much, much easier to find good groups when everyone isn't stuffed in to a blender before each match. Then the game gets to have a breadth of moods and not bland pvp competitors that don't want to play ranked.