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Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu (news.bloomberglaw.com)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by bozo@lemmy.world to c/games@lemmy.world

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https://twitter.com/stephentotilo/status/1762576284817768457/

"NEW: Nintendo is suing the creators of popular Switch emulator Yuzu, saying their tech illegally circumvents Nintendo's software encryption and facilitates piracy. Seeks damages for alleged violations and a shutdown of the emulator.

Notes 1 million copies of Tears of the Kingdom downloaded prior to game's release; says Yuzu's Patreon support doubled during that time. Basically arguing that that is proof that Yuzu's business model helps piracy flourish."

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[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 50 points 4 months ago

I sincerely hope that Yuzu developers don't end up like Gary Bowser and have their income garnished for life by Nintendo.

[-] Essence_of_Meh@kayb.ee 25 points 4 months ago

As much as I dislike Nintendo and wish Yuzu devs all the best I'd like to point out that Bowser wasn't some innocent guy who was caught by big bad company - Moonie has a video that goes into specifics about his involvement with a pirate enterprise worth a shitton of money.

Other than that yeah, I hope they can survive this situation. I wonder if Ryujinx devs are next.

[-] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 months ago

Isn't moonie the dude who shit talked Karl Jobst and ended up deleting his video because Jobst called him out on how wrong he was on pretty much everything and how terrible his research was. Like literally just watched a couple YouTube videos level research? Don't know if I can trust someone who would fuck up THAT bad. I get people make mistakes sometimes but that's just complete negligence especially for someone with an audience that big.

[-] Essence_of_Meh@kayb.ee 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No idea, I'm only familiar with some of his videos so can't say one way or another. Is there any place I could read about it?

Edit: Also, I believe the video I mentioned has links to specific legal documents surrounding this case so it should be easy to fact check. Still, I'm not trying to whitewash the situation you wrote about would love to learn more if it happened.

Edit 2: A'ight, while I didn't have time for a deep dive I did manage to confirm that situation happened.

I sucks since the videos I've seen seemed reasonably researched and now I'm wondering whether that was a one-time screw up or a normal thing that simply wasn't caught more often. Guess I'll try to look into it more when I'm free.

[-] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The video by Karl Jobst himself on the matter is pretty informative and has proof to back up all of his claims. Iirc moonie also quoted legal statue and stuff on his video but was rebuked my Karl as well, don't quote me on this though, I'll have to rewatch that video to confirm. Here's the link. Moonie did end up apologizing in the end and Karl did tell his viewers right off the back to not harass Moonie.

If you like LONG form reasonably researched videos about all sorts of topics check out Hbomberguy. He's great.

[-] Essence_of_Meh@kayb.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Iirc moonie also quoted legal statue and stuff on his video but was rebuked my Karl as well

Yeah, that's why I'm planning to look into whether that was a screw up or not, thanks for the link too.

I'm familiar with HBG but it's always good to mention him.

[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 5 points 4 months ago

He's not innocent and went to jail for it, but does it warrant garnishing his income for life? I think they went too far with that.

[-] Essence_of_Meh@kayb.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Oh no, I completely agree no one should be completely screwed over piracy. Just wanted to add some context as I saw a lot of discussion about him ending with "poor innocent dude" without digging into details. That's all.

Nintendo has a lot of problems that should absolutely be called out. I hope me trying to add more details didn't imply otherwise.

[-] yamanii@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

They are taking his income for life, that's an insane overreach specially for a big successful company like Nintendo, and it didn't matter since the actual team behind it is back selling flashcarts that are even better than having to solder a chip.

[-] Essence_of_Meh@kayb.ee 4 points 4 months ago

Yes, it is insane. That case is also a great showcase of how trying to make example out of a single guy doesn't really work since, as you mentioned, rest of the team is still doing their thing.

I'd like to think (well, hope anyway) that no one looks at Bowser's story and thinks "yeah, that's a reasonable conclusion".