You'll note I did not dispute your "drunk people, not just drunk women" statement as I do agree with that (I even said as much above).

I'm not the same person. Perhaps you're too drunk to consent to this conversation?

What I take immense issue with is you deciding that suddenly drunk people CAN consent so long as both parties take a few shots.

What you take issue is immaterial. Is it true, or not? Mutual rape doesnt make sense as a concept . Also, what defines "drunk"? A blackout drunk person obviously can't consent to anything but then two blackout drunk people physically can't have sex so that's not really in the grey area at all. And yet surely one sip of beer doesn't do it. Are you even going to address the very basic conversation of what constitutes drunk in terms of being able to consent to sex? Or is that another question to be glossed over?

Which is horrifying.

Why? Explain why. Why are you horrified that two consenting adults can go to a bar, have a few shots, then have sex? This happens millions of times every day - are you just always horrified? Who are you to tell those consenting adults that they actually didn't give consent and were raped?

And now you are using drunk driving as a way to further justify what I am increasingly certain are some REALLY fucked up things you have done.

You're certain of nothing. You're an unserious person who craves moral highground even if it's imagined.

Jesus fucking christ. Get help before you hurt more people.

Lol