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Bluesky and Mastodon users are having a fight that could shape the next generation of social media (techcrunch.com)

submitted 9 months ago by Wilshire@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's not even a fight. Bluesky lost a long long time ago when they launched an incompatible protocol with less features and worse UX and have done absolutely nothing to address this other than add curated feeds which barely work in the first place. Bluesky is so far behind that calling it a fight is just silly.

[-] nix@merv.news 46 points 9 months ago

“Lost”. its still growing, gaining more features, and more users. Its a growing protocol thats in its infancy while activitypub is 6+ years old. Theres such a weird elitism coming from mastodon/activitypub people like can we chill and improve activitypub instead of constantly trying to shit on the atProtocol?

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

Hmm atprotocol has 1 server and 1 product. How is it competing with other decentralized protocols by not having anything to show? All I'm saying that it's not a real competition yet especially since Bluesky is literally just the worst parts of Twitter without anything done to address the same toxic shit that came out of the original.

[-] nix@merv.news 2 points 9 months ago

Its barely been around. How many services did activitypub have the first year? Atprotocol already has tools twitter didnt have to combat the bad shit. The block tool is way more powerful and theres block lists, theres custom feeds instead of toxic for you page that pushes ads and inflammatory posts.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You just can't compare these two directly - ActivityPub which is a W3C backed non-profit free protocol and software collection to Bluesky which is a single for profit american product with some open source components that could be decentralized. But even if you do, it's still underperforming despite being found directly to leech of users of an existing failing product (it's even the same founder lol).

Again, you can like Bluesky and atprotocol but to say it's on even remotely equal footing either in ideological or real sense to be "fighting activititypub" is just laughable any way you look at it.

[-] cosmic_slate@dmv.social 7 points 9 months ago

What do you mean “underperforming”? That’s just head-in-sand nonsense.

Basically 3/4th of the number of active Mastodon users signed up for Bluesky within the last few days.

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Well, 1 effective server. I would sure hope it actually runs on more than 1 for redundancy/latency reasons.

[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 4 points 9 months ago

The server isnt effective by itself. Marketing and money to pay developers is. In comparison to mastodons completely open source approach, the proprietary bluesky software is a step back to the old ways. Its a public benefit llc which I can appreciate but it feels like someone wanted to show people that proprietary is always better. I‘m not a fan.