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this post was submitted on 12 Feb 2024
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I love the maturity in the responses to the question here. I was honestly expecting more people to agree with the OP, but it's been a delight to read such colourful articulations on the reasons why they are wrong. I don't even need to weigh in here as it's been said perfectly by so many people here.
Agreeing with OP is the same as saying you don't believe people can change or get better.
The same reason a lot of jobs drug test- insurance requirements
Now ask yourself why those insurance requirements exist
Because companies don’t want to take on the liability of hiring someone that they don’t think they can trust.
I don’t really get your narrative about someone hiring a thief over a rapist- both felony convictions will limit your opportunities.
You're not listening. Companies shouldn't hire either. And we're talking specifically about rapists, not thieves. Don't waste my time trying to strawman.
So what do you propose those convicted do after they’ve served their time?
Ignore strawmen like yours right now.
Meanwhile, the rest of us will keep rapists out of workplaces where they have opportunities to harm others and live our lives knowing we have the best interests of those around us at heart.
Ok, so where should they and any other felony convictions go after they serve their time? It’s a very pertinent question.
So what you’re proposing is anybody convicted of sexual assault be imprisoned, for life, with no possibility of parole or reform. Is that correct?
And that rape apologists like you join them. I'm sure you'd be great company for each other.
Good point. Companies willfully hire murderers because you can't murder a company.
No, it isn't. You can fully believe in people's ability to rehabilitate and change, while also being aware that not everyone rehabilitates and changes.
The needs of the perpetrator of a crime need to be balanced against the needs of society at large. This is why you get your license taken away from you when you drink and drive, or why you end up on a sex offenders register.
In this case, there's a valid argument to be made that this person represents a danger to society, and the need to protect/inform people from him outweighs his desire to not have past crimes revealed.
If you can get a psychologist to sign off on him having uncontrollable urges then yeah. Otherwise he needs the same chances as every other ex felon.
So what is this guy supposed to do to support himself?
Obvious. More crime.
You can feed and house them, of course.
No, people should be able to feed and house themselves.
Yes, they should be able to feed and house themselves, which they can't do if they're being forced to work around a rapist.
What is that valid argument? OP said that indicates an ongoing danger, and if they're an ongoing danger, what do we do in response to that beyond not covering up their crimes (which are already reported on the sex offender registry)?
The law is far from perfect, but it's hard to overstate the danger of basing the rule of law on vibes - which you appear to be doing.
This is why I am so glad I abandoned Reddit.
Preach, there was a video of a woman on the front page of Reddit, obviously intoxicated and clearly of her mind, and she kept yelling the n word. All while she was getting assaulted. She mentally was clearly not there but all the top comments were defending the assault and saying all kinds of unspeakable shit. Reddit likes to pretend they are smart liberal and enlightened but I've seen it descend into a pit of shitheads so many times.