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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you think George W. Bush did any amount of damage to the world?

[–] dtjones@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I agree that GB did an insane amount of damage to our country and Trump is the same way. But for all the damage that has been done, it doesn't feel like democrats have been able to achieve a comparable amount of good. I understand the mechanics on "why" they are unable to (a big tent coalition up against a unified party of fanatics) but it's for that reason that I might agree that Al Gore, despite his best intentions, may have been railroaded in his efforts to establish the US as a climate leader.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm curious, but are you at all aware of the legislation that has passed in the last three years....?

[–] dtjones@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I feel like the undertone of this question is "clearly you don't know what the Dems have done, otherwise you'd feel differently." Maybe I'm way off base with that, but there isn't any legislation that Dems have passed during Biden's term that even comes close to undoing or reversing the damage of the Trump presidency. Feel free to argue your case, but I would put special emphasis on these points:

  1. The repeal of Roe v Wade
  2. The appointment of 3 conservative justices (which additionally led to the repeal of affirmative action)
  3. An insurrection that has not resulted in any major convictions against Trump, his family, or his lieutenants
  4. The death of a million+ Americans from a deadly pandemic that was politicized because of one man's massive ego/possible Russian ties
  5. Massive inflation caused by huge bailouts and tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans, followed by shrink and greedflation. American corporations haven't shared any amount of the burden they caused. The Dems did pass a 15% minimum corporate* tax rate, but this is band aid on a much larger problem, because this tax rate will just be repealed in time. These companies need real punitive action/jail/anti-trust laws being used against them.

I'm sure I missed a couple, but it is asinine to think that anything Joe Biden has accomplished has "fixed," or even started to fix, any of these things.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Did anyone claim Joe's cabinet fixed all the ills of the last administration? The fundamental comment being thrown around by the likes of /u/nicolairathjen and their other equivocating pals is that the current administration has been ineffective at actualizing any good despite having a really long list of achieved results. There is this fatalist attitude floating around, but every time you ask people how much they know about what is actually going on on a policy level it's crickets. Your 5 point bullet list is evidence alone at what an impact a cabinet can have so what are we even arguing any more?