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YouTube and Spotify Won’t Launch Apple Vision Pro Apps, Joining Netflix
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I don’t have faith Google could even make a good app for the device considering the iPad YouTube app is janky as shit and it’s been on the platform for years.
the question is do they have any incentive to make a killer app on a direct competitor's platform?
Since the Android tablet space has been garbage for the last decade, I would assume they’d have at least put in some work to make the iPad app pretty solid.
But I don’t disagree with what you are saying, really. However, if a janky iPad is what they think will make people jump to Android, I have a bridge to sell them.
By garbage you mean Lenovo can offer a fast tablet with hdr, high frame rate display, 2k res, proper pen included and useful desktop mode for less than an iPad? Sorry but iPad is no longer offering competitive product in the tablet space.
It's not just a "competitive product". iPads are the entire tablet space.
Nope, iPads are less than 40% of the global tablet space
For the same reason androids are dominant in global market share. Because $5 pieces of shit in the third world that make no profit are the lion's share of that number.
If you're buying a tablet, and aren't buying a $100 piece of shit subsidized by Amazon, there isn't a single price point where a reasonable person would even remotely consider an Android over an iPad. Android is a terrible tablet OS with terrible support from apps, and the hardware only sounds OK on paper. Every iPad from the entry level up completely shits on every competitor on the market at a comparable price point.
First, you said iPads are the entire market and I just proved that isn’t remotely true, so accept that. Switching up the goalposts to insult people in markets that either don’t have access to iPads or can’t afford them isn’t ok.
Scale of economy isn’t the reason that globally Apple cannot go beyond 40% of that market, it’s a competitive market and Apple would need to sacrifice profit to sell at prices their competitors can to match them at scale. Apple will not be able to meet even their nearest neighbours down from Samsung because they will not scale their soaring profit margin down to match.
If you care the to be honest about subsidies then you may want to ask why Google dominates all Apple products and why Facebook used to - remember when Facebook had its own preferences before being migrated to the app settings? Apple has often subsidised product with brand relationships to certain third-parties to maximise profits.
As to your vague statement about every iPad shitting every competitor that is is bullshit and dismisses all value propositions in favour or brand comfort and some subjective synthetic benchmarks that rarely reflect real world experexperience. In practice I own a really great Lenovo tab that gives better than or equal to current gen iPad Pro experiences for much less. And I get to side load apps and remove bloat and ads at my behest. What do you get on an iPad? Whatever Apple supplies in the AppStore and that’s it. Wipr is ok if you are ok with Safari but you can’t easily or consistently remove ads from other Apps and you can’t recompile them on device to add features or remove other annoying ones. Synthetic benchmarks don’t tell the real story and never have.
They are the entire market. No one reasonable is buying anything over $100 that isn't iPad. There's nothing remotely competitive.
Pretending $50 junk machines that break in months, can barely handle Facebook, and only exist in the third world is the same market is laughable.
And yet, one of those sells significantly better than the other one.
Google’s core business is ultimately ad sales, and any way they can collect data on you to sell you ads, and the get you to look at those ads, is revenue for them. Sure they would be able to collect more data if they had full control over your device, but as long as you’re watching their ads at all they are making money.
yeah but this is a very niche product.
why invest whatever the fuck amount of money for 0.0001% of users to have a great ad-viewing experience, when they can just shoehorn the web app and play the ads anyway?
Yeah I agree. The web version is always available without the pretense of device-specific support, so until the platform is established there isn’t much of a motive.
I’ve had zero issues what so ever with the iPad app, what’s wrong with it for you?
I use my ipad with a trackpad a lot, and often with stage manager on an external display. Youtube doesn't play well with that set up. Oddly it'll switch which background color to show (like from dark to light) and as a result the text can get unreadable because the text doesn't always switch with it. The chat/info panes sometimes won't work when you click on them. I've had it not let me click the share button because the share button wouldn't load.
And, yes, Stage Manager is somewhat a niche use case, I suppose. But this isn't a mom and pop app dev. It's google.
Even out of Stage Manager, they don't support the cursor targets like apps are supposed to (maybe they are just using one build and shipping everywhere and hoping for the best). PiP sometimes doesn't work well, and you have to kill the app and restart.
They should do better with one of their flagship apps, is all I'm saying. And Apple, honestly, should do better on their end with stuff like this. They don't even have all native apps built for the Vision Pro that comes out in a couple weeks. It's like, you're the most profitable company on the planet and you don't even bother. It's crazy.