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[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Jedi Leia has some formerly canonical basis. She should have already been a full Jedi well before ep7 even if you throw out the entire EU, as Disney did.

Resetting canon to only include the movies and shows was criminal in my opinion, since they would have literally had decades worth of scripts in those books.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

The ridiculous Mary Poppins scene was not the way to introduce Jedi Leia.

[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

that is a much more coherent opinion, and one I share completely. They absolutely should have had Leia training Rey in some capacity first, although I have to assume Fisher's age, if not her health, may have influenced their decisions on where to take her character.

[-] chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 7 months ago

It's long-established established canon that Leia is force-sensitive (Luke outright says as much in TLJ), and that force-pulling can be done without training (though I'm sure she picked some things up from Luke over the years). If Leia using the force caught you off-guard I'm sorry but like that was like my first expectation when I heard Leia would be in the sequels.

Also it's so strange to me that people say it looked like Mary Poppins to them. have you never watched video of people in microgravity? it was honestly a pretty realistic depiction of how things behave in vacuum and zero-g, and I found the scene breathtaking.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

My theater broke out in laughter at the scene. The problem isn't that Leia can use the force. The problem is that it's the only force use that moves the user, at least it's depicted that way. There's also the lack of vacuum in the whole scene, or did Leia also give herself a force spacesuit while being blown away?

[-] chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

exposure to vacuum doesn't cause people to explosively decompress, that's a hollywood myth and it was refreshing to see it subverted. the human body simply isn't that pressurized, it's feasible to survive that long in vacuum provided you get immediate care.

also, 1) the ship is massive and she's tiny, it would look the same if she was pulling the ship towards her, 2) physics doesn't care about the distinction because it depends on frame of reference, and 3) exerting a force on an object exerts an opposite force on you, per Newton's first law.

you should really broaden your horizons, it was a spectacular scene and I'm sorry you aren't literate enough to appreciate it.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

The force doesn't follow physics, if it did Yoda would have been crushed several times. If the ship did move to her, I would expect the people on the ship to notice the sudden change in direction, and all the fighters should notice as well, but no one calls it out. There's also people just standing I'm what should be a vacuum on the ship where she lands, and those people are just fine.

The whole scene is a great example of style over substance. The repeated use of these scenes makes the movie worse.a

[-] chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'm just gonna leave aside your nonsense understanding of physics, and the way realistic physics are both good and bad for the movie accoring to what you want to nitpick next, and focus on that last bit.

When has star wars ever NOT been style over substance? When has any of it ever made good sense, or been consistent? It's a cheesy franchise about space wizards that has been 100% Rule of Cool top to bottom since the very first installment. I think you just want to hate the movie because you were told to hate the movie.

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