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[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Billionaires make money off stocks and asset gains, so taxing income higher generally only hurts the upper middle class (i.e. doctors, high earning professionals).

In Canada the average effective tax rate actually decreases once you hit like $750k (I don't have exact numbers, it's been a while since I analyzed this one) because those people stop paying as much employment tax and instead pay capital gains which are taxed at 50%.

So, if you're middle class, or upper middle class, you're paying twice as much as the millionaires and billionaires are per additional dollar made.

And that's the best case because the really rich people put their assets under a corporation and continually "reinvest" their gains while harvesting their losses (businesses pay 26.5% tax).

So Rich people pay a marginal rate of 26.5/26.8%, while the upper middle class pay 53.5% on their income.

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Omg 50% capital gains tax sounds insane. I feel like that would dissuade people from investing. "Okay you invest in this asset. It might go down, which would be bad, but if it goes up you get to keep half of that and pay me the other half!"

[–] adrian783@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

sounds like a great deal for doing literally zero work?

[–] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago

But they took the risk of becoming checks notes ... a wage worker.

[–] HopFlop@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Whats your definition of work then? Id actually be interested...

[–] adrian783@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

things that wouldn't do if you don't get paid for it

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The capital gains exemption is that you only pay tax on 50% as income.

So if I make $100k, I pay taxes on $50k, at my marginal tax rate (max of 53% in Ontario, so the effective tax rate on capital gains is at most 26.5%). If I work 9-5 and I make $100k, I'm taxed on the whole thing.

Plus if you lose money you can apply it 3 years back to get taxes back.

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Ah this makes much more sense. Thank you for the explanation