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Opposition to genocide is an indicator that someone wants Trump to win?
If you're not skeptical of single issue leftists, then you should be more skeptical in general.
We know that there was a LOT of foreign astroturfing in 2016. And 2020. 2024 will likely repeat this trend, but armed with AI.
We've already seen one weak "it was AI and fake" argument from Roger Stone. Going to see a lot more of that this year, too.
So he careful who you trust, because they just might have an agenda.
That's certainly a convenient way to dismiss people who don't think Democrats should be supporting genocide.
It's been great watching centrist Democrats cave and capitulate endlessly over the course of decades, only to find out that the single issue they will actually hold firm on is supporting the genocide they've always wanted.
Oh, I'm firmly against genocide. I'm also against the death penalty. I lean a lot more socialist and am what most on the right would consider an "extreme leftist" (even though my views are pretty much center left when you consider global politics).
I think that relations with Israel are very complex, and Biden is fucking them up. I don't support what his administration is doing in thar regard.
But I also lived through the last Trump presidency, and I know what is at stake. Most of the astroturfing we've seen aimed at the left for the last decade, at least, has been an attempt to suppress the Democratic vote by latching onto a single issue to point to and say, "see! The Democrats are just as bad!"
When people don't show up for the presidential, down ballot votes suffer, too.
And in the end, will you want to vote for the guy who supports Israel and wants to destroy democracy, or the guy who supports Israel and wants to retain democracy? Because those are the likely choices.
So keep the pressure on. Call your representatives and let them know of your disapproval. But please stop with this, "the Democrats are evil because of this one thing," bullshit. Politics are complicated, and you should be able to recognize and weigh more than one issue at a time.
If centrist Democrats don't want me judging them based on their support for genocide, they just have to stop supporting genocide.
I'm voting for Biden. This is now the fifth time in this thread I've had to make that explicit because someone assumed otherwise based exclusively on my assertion that he should stop supporting genocide.
The people who are the ones who complain with:
seem to be die hard Democrats. I do agree with them that there is definitely is an issue where the "non-Republican" vote is split into many sections. This leads to the issue where the Democrats are mad at other non-Republicans for "splitting the vote" and causing their party a tough time.
Lately, all Democrats do is cry about Trump while offering no solutions to the circumstances that put him in such a place in the first place. As if electing Biden stops Republicans from being Republicans? Medicare and Medicaid are being cut severely. Biden has been the president where scalping is finally lower and all he does is spend extra on killing.
As you have noticed, negotiation about genocide isn't even an option with them. We have to elect their official or we get, wait for it, genocide and fascism? 😱
To Biden fans: If getting rid of Trump is your truly your biggest worry than vote for a progressive president with us!
tldr: The Republicans have become so unbelievable that the insanity and inability of Democrats to do anything is normal to many people.