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[-] USSEthernet@startrek.website 110 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The amount of downvotes on comments trying to help people not get price gouged and comments supporting these subscription price increases shows me just how many corporate shills are actually out there. No wonder these corps keep getting away with this bullshit.

Edit: Wow so many people took personal offense to this...almost like it they know it's true but are afraid to admit it. Everyone is hurting financially right now, some more than others. Yet year over year, the prices keep going up even with record inflation and record profits. Keep shilling folks, enjoy emptying your wallets for the millionaires while you struggle.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not going to defend the price increase, but a lot of comments in here are just aimless hatred of the idea of paying anything, ever.

Pound for pound, YouTube Premium has been a decent deal at $10. Has been. This is pushing it, but there's a lot of comments that seem absolutely indignant at the idea of paying YouTube period (and by extension the content creators).

There's got to be some room for nuance here. The internet is plagued by advertising and paywalls, yes, but it can also not exist without them, so we find some middle ground.

[-] Karza@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

It can definitely exist without advertising and paywalls. It just going to be smaller.

[-] MagicalPanda@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I've been using the internet for over 24 years. I can tell you that the internet can survive without ads or paywalls. Ads and paywalls are a product of greed. Ads are way more efficient these days but many used to take up so much memory. I remember when AdBlock or whatever it was called came out. It made browsing the internet smoother.

[-] atomWood@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

The only way the internet can survive without ads or paywalls is for the person/business hosting the content to pay for everything out of pocket.

A platform like YouTube could never exist without some form of revenue. I understand that there are small platforms out there, such as PeerTube, but they will never be comparable to the scale of YouTube without some form of revenue. Sure, people could grow PeerTube by spinning up their own instances, but then they need to provide their own hardware and storage. At which point you’re spending just as much, or likely more, than you would on a subscription service.

[-] variants@possumpat.io 4 points 1 year ago

I think its possible it will just be slow and requires people to sacrifice a bit just like we are trying to do with lemmy. maybe find a different route for ads like how Brave the browser does it where it give the user the choice to see ads and give them and the content creator a cut if they agree to it, not that I trust that browser but its an interesting concept

[-] persolb@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah. We can’t have free, privacy, and creators that eat. Pick two.

(We might end up paying and getting neither privacy or paid creators… but at least it is worth the attempt to do things right.)

[-] mrmanager@lemmy.today 10 points 1 year ago

Poeple think they are sharing their enormous profits with creators. Maybe they get a few bucks from the billions.

[-] BaldrOdinson@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It's surprising to me. First moment I've thought maybe Lemmy is a worse place to be. Is there really that many astroturfing trolls here? Yikes.

[-] Ado@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

I can afford $13/month on my income and watch YT on a daily basis, much more than any other streaming service by a wide margain. Does that somehow make me an astroturfing troll?

[-] ZodiacSF1969@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Yet year over year, the prices keep going up even with record inflation

Well yeh, that's what inflation is...

[-] soulifix@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I don't understand what shilling will earn for these people. The corps don't care about you. They never will and never have. Do these shills think there's some comfy bonus to be gained if they wave their flag around in support of greedy practices?

[-] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

I think what you are seeing here so far is the organic result of those dumb enough to pay this kind of money for youtube being personally offended and defending their bad decisions.

We will get there but I'm not sure that this platform is large enough to be a major target for corpo bots just yet. Just dummies.

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