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My brother is 12 and just like other people of his age he can't use a computer properly because he is only familiar with mobile devices and dumbed-down computers

I recently dual-booted Fedora KDE and Windows 10 on his laptop. Showed him Discovery and told him, "This is the app store. Everything you'll ever need is here, and if you can't find something just tell me and I'll add it there". I also set up bottles telling him "Your non-steam games are here". He installed Steam and other apps himself

I guess he is a better Linux user than Linus Sebastian since he installed Steam without breaking his OS...

The tech support questions and stuff like "Can you install this for me?" or "Is this a virus?" dropped to zero. He only asks me things like "What was the name of PowerPoint for Linux" once in a while

After a week I have hardly ever seen my brother use Windows. He says Fedora is "like iOS" and he absolutely loved it

I use Arch and he keeps telling me "Why are you doing that nerdy terminal stuff just use Fedora". He also keeps explaining to me why Fedora better than my "nerd OS"

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[–] MrCheeze445@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

maybe unpopular opinion here but while it was user error, Linus breaking the OS by installing steam is something that should have never been possible, anyways glad to hear your brother is learning Linux!

[–] this_is_router@feddit.de 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the os should do as i say, that includes breaking it if i please. the problem are people writing into the terminal "i understand that i uninstall half my os with this command but want to do it anyway" and then wonder why half their os gets uninstalled.

[–] Zangoose@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I say this as a desktop Linux user for about 5 years at this point, but there is a big difference between typing "I understand I will uninstall half my OS with this" and typing "do as I say". One requires directly repeating what is going to happen, and one is a more verbose version of typing Y.

Yes, the user should still be allowed to break their system however they want, but the warning should definitely be more obvious so the user can actively know if something they are changing might completely break their system.

[–] this_is_router@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

It was as obvious as I said not a simple "do as I say"

[–] cynetri@midwest.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

wasn't linus's issue a rare packaging issue or something that happened and was fixed within a few days' period?

[–] grimaferve@kglitch.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ohyran@lemmy.kde.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In a way yes, but the same "bug" is still possible. The dude was given sudo rights AND copy pasted random commands in a terminal instead of "open the GUI, look for package, install package safely" - so now certain parts of the commands are crippled because one person was stupid, but it was a very very rich and famous influencer so ... yay.

Look at the image ... "unless you know exactly what you're doing"... Linus was being a moron.

He had over five paths out of the issue, one of them was PUSHED on him but nono...

EDIT: if you are gonna use something that says over and over "are you sure" and "only if you KNOW what you're doing" and "type out yes do as I say".... seriously no safety net in the world can protect against that level of dumb

https://uploads.golmedia.net/uploads/articles/article_media/6505586791636543814gol1.jpg

EDIT2: I am not angry at you grimaferve I just had the awkward pleasure of talking to folks who "fixed the bug" and it annoys me when rich and powerful social media influencers force others to do work by talking shit about them just because those influencers are absolute hot garbage gaaaaah! (I love you grimaferve, you rock - and you're amazing and happy holidays <3)