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Elon Musk "We dug our own grave with 'FULL SELF DRIVING""
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Remember Thunderf00t may open himself to lawsuits making these claims publicly. But I'm sure he considered that first, and came to the conclusion, that everything he says, he can document is true. I've run into his material from time to time already from about 15 years ago, and he is 100% a VERY smart guy, that knows what he is talking about.
Except about SpaceX, I'm not going to dig though the threads right now, but he's been hilariously wrong about SpaceX in the past. Though not as bad as common sense skeptic though if I'm remembering right.
How is he wrong about SpaceX? As far as I can tell, he is spot on. If a NASA program had as many failures as SpaceX has, it would be closed down. And the economic claims Musk make for SpaceX are insane.
I think it was the comparisons to other launch vehicles that were very apples to oranges. But as I said, I'd rather not dig through the Reddit threads to find them. I think they were on SpaceX lounge a few years ago? Common sense skeptic commented, but I don't think thunderfoot did.
Are you aware he is a chemist, and has worked in areas related. Not 1 in a thousand understand as well as he how a rocket actually works.
So my guess is that almost everybody else, myself included, who speak on those issues know less.
Have you seen actual experts contradict what he said?
Yeah I know he's a chemist. I'm an engineer. Some of the other people in the thread were engineers too. Anyway, it was just Wikipedia level incorrect information sort of stuff more than deduction of chemistry.
OK, then you know more than me, I'm just not aware of the apples to oranges comparison you mention. And his recent claims he posed on YouTube are spot on IMO.
Here's one of the vids with bad comparisons I was taking about
https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/lrhwxq/i_fact_checked_thunderf00ts_spacex_busted_part_1/
I admit already that first point about 10% being more like 20% doesn't look good. I viewed the video, and it seems he may have done that on purpose to facilitate a kind of wordplay between 10 times and 10%, which would be dishonest. Haven't got time to view the rest now, but you made your point.
You're being trolled, dude.
Jesus, man. Get off his D. You're getting way over defensive of the guy.
Oh boy! Do you mean kind of like Hyperloop and Full Autonomous driving? Or maybe the laughable Human/Robot AI program, where Its stated goal is "to understand the true nature of the universe"?!?! How do you not see Musk is a narcissist, if he believes his own idiocy, he is an idiot, if not he is a con man, there is no between.
I don't, I just don't believe the economic forecast Musk is claiming. Just like when he in 2019 claimed buying any other car than a Tesla would be stupid, because only Tesla would have full self driving next year.
Problem is he promised it was basically ready in 2016, and would be available for customers "next year". Yes "we" will eventually get there I think, but it will probably not be Tesla.
I agree, He is mostly an idiot because he can't help being a narcissist, it makes him behave irrationally with over confidence.
Exactly, obviously he has some sort of competence running a business, but you can be both competent in one way and an idiot in others at the same time.
Yes I admit the success of Tesla is a huge achievement, and I too defended Musk for making the electric car cool and also show it was feasible. When the critics began. I still admit that's a significant achievement, but today as ThunderF00t says, just because he may have been a net positive, doesn't mean we should look the other way when he does harm later.