Ah, thanks, I often get them mixed up.

I was just surprised to find tylenol had a much lower effect on pain than once thought, as in way lower, hard to measure territory.

Of course, studies of this stuff are hard to do well, so who knows what we'll see next year.

My personal experience is analgesics/NSAIDS are almost useless. So much so that I don't even bother with them - why take on the risks if there aren't tangible benefits?

THAT makes me wonder if these studies are problematic because there's so much differentiation between individuals, or perhaps there's an attribute that's common to groups of individuals that makes these meds more/less effective.