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submitted 11 months ago by DacoTaco@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

While they were happy with what the fairphone 4 brought to the table, they seem to like what was changed for the fairphone 5.
What are you guys' opinions on this? A welcome change? would you get one if your phone died within the next year?

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[-] ilovesatan@lemmy.world 120 points 11 months ago

Too bad they don't sell them in the US. I would buy one immediately.

[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 75 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago

Amazing.

I'm sick of buying a new phone every three years because the battery is dead or the processor is slow, nothing can be replaced without it being wildly expensive and now it's a paperweight.

[-] PeachMan@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago

To be fair, I don't think the Fairphone will help much with outdated processors. You can't upgrade the processor inside, and it comes with a relatively slow processor from day one.

This phone is not for people that need performance; it's a very basic phone for people that value an ethical supply chain and repairability.

[-] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Relative slow my arse imo.Its all about use cases and the (potential shitty) apps you run. Been using the fp4 just perfectly fine for months, and before that the one plus x on android 11 just fine.

I would like to know what apps you use that would need the speed of anything besides the "best"?

( and for anyone wondering, one of the reasons you cant switch processor is because of the imei thats burned in. Changing that basically means that the whole id of the phone changes, including links to your mobile provider. It isnt allowed in some places )

[-] PeachMan@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago
[-] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago
[-] PeachMan@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Lately I've been playing Need For Speed Underground 2 on the AetherSX2 emulator. A Fairphone absolutely cannot do that.

Look bud, I'm not trying to attack Fairphone, you don't need to be defensive. I'm just setting expectations that this is not a phone for people that need a high performance processor. The chipset is low-end, objectively. I'm sure it's fine for people who don't care about that stuff.

[-] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Seriously. What mobile games are worth time or money? Aren't they all just pay to win now?

[-] PeachMan@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I can emulate PS2 and GameCube games on my S23. It's pretty great. My S21 struggled with that, so any Fairphone would definitely not be able to do that, as it has significantly less processing power.

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca -3 points 11 months ago

If that's the sum total of your reasons for needing a more expensive, less free, less repairable phone, then I have nothing left except to laugh at you.

[-] PeachMan@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

No, I just don't have the time to explain the hundred obvious ways that a fast processor might benefit somebody, so I chose a single, INCREDIBLY obvious item near the top of the list for most people, and was hoping that I wouldn't get follow-up idiotic responses like this. But alas!

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca -3 points 11 months ago

I used an 11 year old phone for about 6 months while I waited to get a new phone. I never had any problems with processor speeds despite having about 60% the processing power of a then-current phone.

I think people vastly overestimate the need for a bigger better processor.

[-] PeachMan@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I never said that everybody needed a fast phone, or even that MOST people need a fast phone. I would agree that most people don't. I was replying to somebody that said their old phone was slow, and informing them that the Fairphone is probably not a solution to that specific issue because of its budget processor. It's not a performance phone; it's an ethical phone that does basic things perfectly fine.

I don't know who you're arguing with, and I don't think you do either.

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm arguing with you, genius, because I think you're wrong.

There are not a "hundred obvious ways that a fast processor might benefit somebody", as you stated. There aren't really any good reasons. Games are a stupid reason. Everything necessary works fine with an older processor. It's not the 2000s anymore where software bogs down any computer older than three years.

[-] PwnTra1n@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Now, the world don't move to the beat of just one drum, What might be right for you, may not be right for some. -different strokes

[-] SeedyOne@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

Great news, really hope the 5 is next.

[-] oshitwaddup@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 18 points 11 months ago

That and supporting grapheneos would do it for me

[-] ilovesatan@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

That's more up to the grapheneOS devs

[-] oshitwaddup@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 1 points 11 months ago

True, but part of the reason they don't go for it is hardware things that are missing

[-] AtmaJnana@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

For me, the problem was that they don't support the right bands for US carriers.

[-] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago

I'm able to use Mint Mobile here in the States on my Fairphone 4. I believe 5 would also be compatible.

[-] Cris_Color@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I appreciate you mentioning that, thats how I'm considering using the 5 if it ends up as my phone replacement, but I have a hard time interpreting the info around wireless frequency bandwidths supported ๐Ÿ™ƒ I like pretty user interfaces, networking hurts my brain

[-] Ruthalas@infosec.pub 1 points 11 months ago

The FP4 (sold by Murena in the US) has a decent spread of bands, and works pretty well. Feel free to PM me if you want more detail.

[-] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

That's not fair

[-] PsychoWiz@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

I've being following Fairphone since 2013, waiting for them to sell to Taiwan. After a years of waiting, in 2019 I just said fk it and bought one from official store, ship it with international packaging forwarding service. Couldn't be happier with my Fairphone ever since.

[-] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 6 points 11 months ago

I generally try to check every few years to see if they sell to the US yet. Last I checked they would finally ship FP4 to the US, but it will only work on T-Mobile :/ gonna check back in a few more years.

[-] KrapKake@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Well if you're on ATT or any of it's mvno's good luck ever using any devices that isn't on their approved list. I can't even use my carrier unlocked Oneplus 7T. Really the only choice for device freedom in the "land of the free" is T-Mobile.

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