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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.whynotdrs.org/post/494473

Compared against the predominant incumbent social media platforms, the fediverse is very small.

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[–] drkt@feddit.dk 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How? XMPP still works anyway.

[–] drkt@feddit.dk 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Oh yeah it works so I guess by that metric it's not dead

Of course, silly me

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago

i use it. conversations is a p good android app and it's in the f-droid repo. disroot runs an xmpp service and if you're cool, they'll give you an account.

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, what do you really mean?

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not the person you asked, but I've heard an argument that goes like this: Evil Company will "embrace" something, then "extend" it in a way that only works with Evil Company's product, then "extinguish" that thing by making Evil Company's approach incompatible with it. A discussion is provided here: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, but I don't know if that really applies to XMPP. Google turned on XMPP federation for seven years and then turned it off. The article basically admits that it's counterfactual to say that XMPP would have wider adoption or be more developed today if Google never did that.

I think a more significant concern would be if Meta hires away Fediverse developers, but that is separate from them just turning on federation.