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Any health issues that affect your ability to do "normal" things is a disability, no matter how severe, but using the term ablist at people is counter productive. It's a great term for describing types of behaviors and attitudes, but it's not productive in a real life ablist encounter. It just makes them defensive and deaf to reason. Work with them to create knowledge and understanding, don't oppose them or accuse them, offer friendly insight into your life. If they accept it, great, if not, move on. You can't control others, don't stress about it.
That said, I'm not sure what you mean by "not recognized". If it's a medical issue of any variety, it's recognized somewhere in the DSM. But it is very popular, especially among young people, to self diagnose and go on as of it's a sure thing. There are crap doctors out there, so one should seek as many opinions as needed, but until a physician diagnoses it, it is ablist to coopt disabilities and misresent what being disabled actually is based on a hunch. The way to act in this situation is to say "I think I might have x, but I haven't gotten a confirmation yet" or something. Totally fine. But saying "I have x" when no physician has told them so is lying to others and themselves for their own ego.
If someone were to make up diseases not recognized by the DSM and claiming it's a disability, this is just as ablist.
I am on permanent disability, unable to work, with severe mental health shit. I live in Canada. If you want more info, feel free to dm me.
Thanks. Recognised as a medical issue but not as a disability, is what I meant. Certain medical issues aren't considered disabilities as far as I know, even though they can affect a person's ability to do things. Or are you saying that all medical conditions are disabilities? Apologies if I was mistaken
Also I'm just wondering, isn't it possible the DSM could be behind in recognising certain conditions? It may be widely recognised, but just not necessarily by the DSM. I get that you might not call it a disability then but perhaps still a health issue? I'm not sure
For example? Vague generalities are hard to parse
I don’t know what OP might be thinking of, but I can give you an example. DSM-5 does not recognize Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (C-PTSD), which is associated with chronic traumatizing experiences (e.g., victims of physically abusive parents, victims of sex trafficking). The diagnostic criteria would be different than the currently recognized PTSD, which tends to be based on one or a few traumatic events (eg., soldiers/survivors of war, car crash, rape). Since it’s not recognized, many people who have PTSD-like symptoms but who don’t fit the current criteria get diagnosed with anxiety or other disorders, and subsequently don’t get access to the most effective treatments. CPTSD exists on a spectrum from sub-clinical to disabling, just like PTSD. People on the extreme end should get the necessary accommodations for their disability, but without the clinical diagnosis are often expected to kind of suck it up in the “everyone has anxiety” kind of way.
Bessel van der Kolk and other mental health experts/clinicians have been working for decades to get it included in the DSM, but it continues to be excluded. It is, however, in the ICD-11.
Just want to add that I think it's unfortunate that people dismiss anxiety issues by saying "everyone has that". While it's true most people might experience some anxiety, I don't think everyone has the same level of anxiety, and not everyone has an extremely debilitating type of anxiety to where it warrants an understanding that they might struggle more with some things and deserve some leeway or simply understanding and empathy.