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submitted 11 months ago by bzarb8ni@lemm.ee to c/ontario@lemmy.ca

Looks like there will be some changes to where booze will be sold, imminently.

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[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

So you are in favour of making it available in more places

But are trying some weird anti-alcohol high road

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm not in favour of making it available in more places. I just think that government involvement in things like alcohol, pot, gambling and other common human addictions should be revenue neutral, so there are not perverse incentives for the state to exploit the minority of humans that have extreme addiction problems.

There is nothing weird about opposing human suffering.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

I can't tell if you're being disingenuous.

One of the arguments for the taxes on drugs like alcohol is to offset the healthcare costs incurred by people partaking in them.

The government could make the decision to restrict the sale and lower their "income", but balance it out with there being less costs in terms of healthcare.

If we move the sale to the private sector, there is no motivation other than profit. Which usually means to sell as much as possible.

Unless the private sector brings in as much (or more) tax revenue as the public sector, then the only difference is that it (likely) becomes harder to regulate. And if there is less tax dollars coming in, we'll have poorer outcomes, healthwise.

Basically, the government can say "If you want this, you need to pay in advance for your healthcare". Whereas the private sector doesn't care one bit as long as the money is coming in.

I don't understand making the argument that the government shouldn't sell alcohol, but the private sector should be allowed to. It just sounds contradictory to any good faith argument that I can imagine.

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