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[-] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

So how exactly are they criminals? I must've missed their trials where they got convicted of a crime

[-] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

So your definition of the word criminal only extends to people who got caught and convicted? In your definition a murderer who hasn't been caught is not a criminal?

[-] rckclmbr@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

*caught

(Not being snarky, i realize english might not be your first language),

[-] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 3 points 10 months ago

Thanks! Fixed it, and yes it's my 4th language ^^

[-] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

No, he's not, because nobody has proven that he actually did murder someone.

Saying someone is a criminal without any actual evidence and due process is possibly very harmful for that person, you'd agree if someone accused you of doing something you didn't do and faced having your life ruined over such a baseless accusation

[-] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 2 points 10 months ago

Let's look at the definition in Merriam Webster: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/criminal

criminal 2 of 2 noun

  1. one who has committed a crime
  2. a person who has been convicted of a crime

You're disregarding #1 completely for some reason and it's not evident to why.

[-] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Well, if they have to discern the two meanings, it's because it might have a different meaning in different contexts, at least that's how I'd understand it.

The context of "Altman is a criminal" fits neither, as it's not a publicly known fact that he has commited a crime, nor has he been convicted of one.

Allegations that his sister made are just that, allegations, it does not make him a criminal.

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