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ChatGPT is full of sensitive private information and spits out verbatim text from CNN, Goodreads, WordPress blogs, fandom wikis, Terms of Service agreements, Stack Overflow source code, Wikipedia pages, news blogs, random internet comments, and much more.

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[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 50 points 2 years ago (27 children)

Well of course not... it contains entire copies of copyrighted works in its database, not just portions.

[–] ayaya 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (14 children)

The important distinction is that this "database" would be the training data, which it only has access to during training. It does not have access once it is actually deployed and running.

It is easy to think of it like a human taking a test. You are allowed to read your textbooks as much as you want while you study, but once you actually start the test you can only go off of what you remember. Sure you might remember bits and pieces, but it is not the same thing as being able to directly pull from any textbook you want at any time.

It would require you to have a photographic memory (or in the case of ChatGPT, terabytes of VRAM) to be able to perfectly remember the entirety of your textbooks during the test.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub -1 points 2 years ago (8 children)

ChatGPT is a large language model. The model contains word relationships - a nebulous collection of rules for stringing word together. The model does not contain information. In order for ChatGPT to answer flexibly answer questions, it must have access to information for reference - information that it can index, tag and sort for keywords.

[–] ayaya 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm honestly not sure what you're trying to say here. If by "it must have access to information for reference" you mean it has access while it is running, it doesn't. Like I said that information is only available during training. Either you're trying to make a point I'm just not getting or you are misunderstanding how neural networks function.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Like I said that information is only available during training.

This is not correct. I understand how neural networks function, I also understand that the neural network is not a complete system in itself. In order to be useful, the model is connected to other things, including a source of reference information. For instance, earlier this year ChatGPT was connected to the internet so that it could respond to queries with more up-to-date information. At that point, the neural network was frozen. It was not being actively trained on the internet, it was just connected to it for the sake of completing search queries.

[–] brianorca@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That is an optional feature, not required to make use of an LLM. And not even a feature of most LLMs. ChatGPT was usable before they added that, but it can help when you need recent data. And they do continue to train It, with the current cutoff being April of this year, at least for some models. (But training is expensive, so we can expect it to be in conjunction with other design changes that require additional training.)

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