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On Friday, the globe hit 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees) above pre-industrial levels for the first time in recorded history

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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 152 points 1 year ago

The dismaying reality is that it is driven by the wealthy. I got rid of my car, I shop local, and everything in the home is low emissions. No reduction in my personal life can ever offset the way they live.

[-] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 51 points 1 year ago

The truth of the matter is that it's impossible to stop climate change in the short and mid term without degrowth in energy consumption. World leaders gathered and celebrated when they agreed to trade responsibilities for CO2 emissions, when a market-oriented world economy was always going to provoke this result unless there were explicit limits to the production of contaminant energy sources.

[-] kromem@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Driven by the wealthy and enabled by the stupid.

If this topic ceased to be a partisan issue, we might actually see real change and limits enforced.

A world where pollution producers would need to price cleanup and management into their production (which would in turn incentivize cleaner alternatives).

Where corporations might be held liable for damages from their climate or eco negligence.

But as long as this remains an issue that the masses are going to be divided over, the world is going to burn as stupid people insist 3rd degree burns on asphalt is just part of the circle of life.

[-] sic_1@feddit.de 20 points 1 year ago

But I drive my car less, that should do it! /s

This is the reason we're should focus out efforts to make a ruckus and force decision makers to enforce carbon neutrality BY NEXT YEAR instead of by next century. Of course that won't happen but that would be the reasonable way.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

A general strike? Say the word

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago
[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Will just result in new draconian laws being drafted and enacted. Watch how fast people lose the right to peaceful assembly if it actually affected the ruling class.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I think some rights you either have, fight for, or you just default to being a slave

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

Fuck humans, let em all die, the rest of the species on earth will be thrilled.

[-] SkySyrup@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago
[-] OurTragicUniverse@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Don't blame the symptom for the disease.

Capitalism didn't just pop up out of a vacuum to fuck humanity over, we invented it and have continuously supported it to do so.

[-] SkySyrup@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Yes, we did invent it. However, that was done by a small group of people that have been in power for generations, and kept it difficult to change to a better system.

What I’m trying to say is that I think most people probably don’t find it very fair that someone like Bezos can just be so ridiculously rich.

Maybe we can change this.

[-] OurTragicUniverse@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You really think that's going to happen? Lmao. Yeah sure, and next we'll have world peace and end poverty.

Greedy, easily corruptable and prone to violent authoritarianism- describes like 85% of our species now and throughout recorded history.

Stop nice-washing humanity and wake the fuck up. You're not going to end capitalism, too many people benefit from it to let you.

[-] SkySyrup@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

If we just give up, then there is a 0% chance. If we try, then the chance of succession isn’t zero. We have to try to be optimistic. Yes, the world is fucked, but hey, giving up is just accepting that and allowing it.

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Good lol, let humanity die, no other animals have extinction events named after them.

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe when I see the magical communist revolution where humanity doesn't destroy itself I'll be a believer, but until then, I think humanity as a whole is a destructive force for bad.

[-] SkySyrup@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

I don’t really think communism in the extreme version is currently a solution, but there is a simpler solution for now for the ultra-rich if you tax them for a large amount of money proportional to the income let’s say 100% after 10 million per year you quickly fix (I guess bandaid-patch) a big problem with capitalism.

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

We lost the class war, the climate is fucked.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Most species on earth will be dead in any situation that wipes out humanity.

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Hopefully another super predator doesn't evolve and create its own extinction event 😵

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The first super predator to wipe out life on earth also did it through climate change, which I find kind of poetic.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Oxidation_Event

[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Don’t worry it will happen. It won’t be long

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

Not even if 99% of us would (or even could, for that matter)

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