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submitted 1 year ago by Gsus4@lemmy.one to c/technology@lemmy.world

This is the big snag with EVs (as with solar panels and wind turbines): how much does a battery really cost if you factor in recycling and environmental damages? (Sorry about the slideshow format.)

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[-] tallwookie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i've seen some ex-nissan leaf battery packs get turned into DIY solar power storage for home use (on youtube), but it looks super complicated & not really doable for most people.

full on recycling, breaking down to chemicals/metals and then reselling back to battery manufacturing companies is far more realistic for most EV batteries. it can be a dirty process though.

[-] palitu@lemmy.perthchat.org 2 points 1 year ago

yeah, there are a lot of options to do it.

The most common i have seen is getting the packs to a standard low voltage (typically 48V), then using a LV compatible hybrid inverter/charger.

What i meant was not DIY, but a company to set up a set of modules that easily plug in together, and sell them to the public.

[-] tallwookie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

oh, those exist - not made from recycled materials, or I really doubt it, but ---> https://us.ecoflow.com/products/5kwh-power-kits?variant=39946322313289

the batteries are modular & stack together well. I was looking into "easy" systems a while back and stumbled on these. it's over priced, for what you get, but it's easy to set up.

[-] palitu@lemmy.perthchat.org 1 points 1 year ago

yeah there are a number of stackable kits around. but no, they would be new batteries.

check out https://batteryhookup.com/ they always have recovered cells. look at these:

i could do it, but the shipping to Australia is prohibitive. I am certain that they could do something, based off of a number of different module types from different EV manufacturers (Tesla, BYD, Nissan, etc), and build out a framework that can stack them together using as common as possible materials to make it lego-like.

anyway, thats the dream!

[-] tallwookie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

thanks for the link!

that looks super DIY though... having to get the BMS, and then wiring it up properly is beyond my skills, I'll probably go with a server rack battery that has the BMS other nice features built in.

[-] palitu@lemmy.perthchat.org 2 points 1 year ago

yes. i agree.

What i am saying, as for reuse, i want a company to start up that builds and sells the reuseable EV batteries as home storage. no need for us to get our hands dirty, or even know what BMS is.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

undefined> i’ve seen some ex-nissan leaf battery packs get turned into DIY solar power storage for home use (on youtube), but it looks super complicated & not really doable for most people.

You'll be happy to know old Nissan Leaf batteries are being used at utility scale for excess solar power storage.

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