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Spanish rightwing politician shot in face in Madrid
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Why don't liberals understand that there already are definitions for things such as fascism?
And why can I not do both? Both be violently opposed to fascism and also be fine with violence against my political enemies in general? There are plenty of justifications against other political enemies besides calling them fascists.
You legally and morally can't resort to violence over politics, and if you think you can, then you shouldn't be protected by the social contract regarding free speech. Basically, you are not compatible with modern society and should be locked up or banished. Also I'm not a liberal.
You absolutely can do that morally and legally. I'd say you're even required to morally. Laws are written by those in power and therefore meaningless. Any new ruling class or clique can make their own ones.
There is nothing modern about your society which forces humanity down the drain. And the way you're talking about modern society, law and social contract bullshit you definitely sound like a liberal. Or are you gonna tell me you're a fascist with a thing for liberal capitalism and personal rights?
By the way it's quite hypocritical to oppose violence only when your preferred ideology is in power. But before that or under other systems it's of course fine to topple and fight and oppose them violently. One day violence may no longer be necessary, but in today's world it still is.
I identify as politically conservative, and if I'm not mistaken that's nearly the same as fascist in your eyes, which you've just stated is deserving of violence. Would you feel justified using violence against me if you saw me at the polls and knew that I were planning to vote conservative? I can't believe I'm asking this question, but I'm honestly not sure.
Modern conservatism is a subset of liberalism. Unless you're trying to say you're an old school conservative believing in monarchy and feudalism.
And yes I believe in political violence. Attacking someone at polls is useless and stupid, but overall political enemies should fight. At least that is honest and provides a fair competition, unlike the parliamentarian scheming, compromising and hypocricies of modern legal and political systems which are designed to empower certain groups, and disadvantage or completely prevent certain opposing movements.
Yeah you might be right. Any government will inevitably grow corrupt and needs healthy fear of the people to keep them honest. Or as a wise man once put it: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."