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[-] SimplyATable@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I do wish they used it more effectively, but asking the government for sane spending habits isn't gonna do much

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, the problem isn't taxation in it of itself, but the "democratic" goverments in place for the interests of the rich 10%

[-] novibe@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

This framing of being the “rich” versus the plebs is not really accurate.

It’s the wealth owners versus the workers. People who own for a living and people who work for a living. That’s it.

In that lens, the real enemy is the top 0.1% of society. And the swathes of workers that are alienated enough to defend their masters.

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

there is the petite bourgeoisie (am referring to medium, not small buisnesses) who work and own. There is managers who work for a living but still have some power and advantages of the owning class

[-] novibe@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The managerial class are just privileged work dogs. They aren’t anywhere closer to the true owner class than you and me.

They do defend the current power structures, as they benefit them more than the other workers they manage.

But also do cops. And politicians.

They are wrong, as dismantling the current system would also benefit them. It would benefit every single person alive. Even the true owner class.

They are alienated from humanity, which alienates them from their own humanity. We are alienated from ourselves and our communities.

Capitalism is a mindless beast that wants to commodify and digitise reality as a whole. Even create new realities to expand. It doesn’t care about people. Workers or owners.

A new system based on humanity, on life, would benefit every single living being on Earth. Capitalism destroys life. It doesn’t care about “class”.

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

well put, but the class distinction is still the main contradiction of capitalism

[-] Piers@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They are wrong, as dismantling the current system would also benefit them. It would benefit every single person alive. Even the true owner class.

One huge lie that helps sustain the current system is the idea that the wealth class are acting in their own best interests. They may often mistakenly think that they are but their lives would be better and their minds calmer if things worked differently. We all understand intuitively that children do not perfectly understand the impact their actions will have on their own wellbeing and that they require guidance to avoid falling into harm and to grow to have the skills to make better judgements for themselves. What we miss is that we often tend to think that those better judgement skills magically snap into place in adulthood and are perfectly evenly functional across all situations for all people. A moment's reflection makes it very clear that cannot possibly be true. All of us do foolish things that direct us away from our own best interests to some degree and frequency and we can often clearly see when others do so but are blind to it. This is just as true of some idiot billionaire ruining their own home as it is for anyone else. They are no more infallible than any of us.

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