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I'm actually excited to see this one. Kamala is a fun character and Iman Vellani captured her essence really well. They have not done a good job of making Captain Marvel or Monica Rambeau as characters we care about, but through the Kamala lens we might during the movie. But a lot of folks skipped on Ms. Marvel thinking she was for kids.
However, I wouldn't even call this dip in presales Marvel fatigue. I'm a Marvel fanboy. I watched She Hulk and enjoyed it. Yet, Marvel have done nothing to actually invest me into the current phase. It's not a Marvel fatigue but more a multiverse/plot fatigue. I haven't watched Secret Invasion or Loki 2 because... Why?
I find Kang to be such a damp squib of a character. They ruined most of his mystique at the end of Quantumania to the extent he is no longer a real threat. Thanos worked because he was a difficult but not impossible threat. You felt like even the Guardians had a chance against him as slim a chance as that might be.
Kang is an impossible threat. A multi-versal threat that has no limits. He's boring because he can't be overcome.
I've said it before when we were all on Reddit, this Phase would be made significantly more interesting if you use this as the opportunity to introduce Doctor Doom. Have him crush Kang as a threat setting up a more complex, potentially beatable, villain and establishing a power order in one sweep.
Once he's established, bring in the X-Men and FF fighting off incursions, lead up to X-Men Vs MCU as your Summer Blockbuster, have a handful of arthouse y Last Days Of style movies. Go into Battleworld, have some really fun remixes of our established characters, reset the multiverse to a single world with more mundane threats and recast any character who wants out of the franchise.
Instead, this movie becomes a 'eh. I'll see it on Disney+ eventually'.
I didn't care enough about Kamala's show to watch it all the way through. From what I remember and what I saw, Iman Vellani did a good job of not being a super annoying fangirl, which is the main complaint most folks have about the comic character. She's pretty cringy because she's obsessed with all the people she's fighting alongside and it makes the character insufferable. They solved that with some of the later iterations of Kamala, including the one in the Avengers game's main story who was markedly less annoying than any other iteration prior. I just kind of don't care about India or the Partition or any of that stuff going on in the background.
Nah, they dropped the whole fangirl thing as a common occurrence a while back in comics. The show doesn't lean into it very much.
I can't say the show was a 10/10, but they kept the spirit of the character that well. The ending was "good enough" imo
You call yourself a Marvel fanboy, but you enjoyed She-Hulk, and haven't bothered to watch two of the best Marvel TV shows? Something doesn't add up.
And this, my fellow Lemmings, we call gatekeeping.
I actually meant it somewhat sarcastically, but I obviously failed in getting that across. I just found it funny that they would refer to themselves as a Marvel fanboy and in the same breath admit to not watching their best content.
Having said that, I'll happily keep that gate if it prevents more dross like She-Hulk from getting made.
It totally missed the mark even if it was sarcastic. I don't think a "/s" in the end would've saved that.
Calling yourself a fanboy is perfectly reasonable even if you haven't seen every episode or movie out there. They like it, they can call themselves a fan.
Furthermore, not everyone can afford a Disney+ subscription to watch the full Marvel lore or can't afford the time to catch up. That doesn't restrict them from being a fanboy.
We'll agree to disagree. This just came across as someone calling themselves a Tolkien fanboy when the only content they'd consumed was Rings of Power, or a Star Wars fanboy because they once saw the Holiday Special.
She-Hulk is objectively the worst thing Marvel have ever put out, and was actively insulting to fans.
Also, they clearly do have a Disney+ subscription if they watched it. Nobody would pirate that.
I've seen one episode of Secret and have no urge to find out what happens. If Loki is only 6 episodes like last season, this season so far has been a huge nothing sandwich. And episode 5 just came out!
You're right of course. Neither Loki nor Secret Invasion have such high stakes as the main character's struggles to find a boyfriend, buy some dope sneakers or dance with Megan Thee Stallion, instead choosing such mundane things as preventing the nuclear annihilation of humankind or preventing the fabric of the universe from collapsing.
Secret Invasion also unfortunately didn't end with a fourth-wall-breaking monologue about how wrong viewers are for liking the things that the studio have spent two decades building, and Loki didn't spend a series talking about how wrong it is to judge a person based solely on their appearance, only to then take an established character of the opposite gender and objectify them for laughs.
She-Hulk was a modern masterpiece of storytelling, and anything else Marvel have put out pales in comparison. /s