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Former President Barack Obama said a way forward for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is only possible if people acknowledge the “complexity” of the situation.

“If there’s any chance of us being able to act constructively to do something, it will require an admission of complexity and maintaining what on the surface may seem contradictory ideas that what Hamas did was horrific, and there’s no justification for it. And … that the occupation and what’s happening to Palestinians is unbearable,” Obama said in an interview on the podcast “Pod Save America.”

The former president’s comments come as the Israeli military focuses its offensive against Hamas in Gaza City and northern parts of the enclave.

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[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Hamas is openly calling for genocide too, and they've been doing it longer than Israel.

Also, funny story, Israel is also literally the victims of genocide, (the Holocaust?), which is why their motto is "never again".

There is no "way worse", just ignorant keyboard warriors, and a shitty situation made worse by shitty people.

[–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you think the Holocaust means that the descendents of it's victims can't be genociders themselves? It altyally makes more sense, when you consider the cycle of abuse. Israel has been genociding Palestine for longer than Hamas has even existed, so no, that's false.

Israel is way worse than Palestine, and you are the ignorant one if you disagree based entirely on the US/Israeli propaganda you've seen. You should research this yourself if you don't believe me. Would you rather be right, or correct?

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago

Israel are the beneficiaries of the Holocaust.

Literally, the major bump in population they experienced as a result of WWII was Jews who were able to go through a Nazi/Israel visa program to transfer them and their money. Like Hitler was planning to send them to Madagascar after he seized France, and then Israel reached out to him and negotiated a deal for him to send them settlers.

This agreement was seen as such a "success" the Roma (who unfortunately had a bit of a fascist sympathizing streak at the time) wanted to strike a similar agreement with Mussolini when he invaded Egypt to get their own "Israel" along the Red Sea coast.

The actual place most of the post war victims went to was to America where Jews had found success developing community safety via integration with surrounding communities.