this post was submitted on 21 Oct 2023
190 points (92.0% liked)

Science

3072 readers
35 users here now

General discussions about "science" itself

Be sure to also check out these other Fediverse science communities:

https://lemmy.ml/c/science

https://beehaw.org/c/science

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[โ€“] kevin@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You agree that if you stop eating or eat less, you will lose weight. Great. We'll have to disagree on the definition of a solution

Cutting off someone's leg will also cause them to lose weight. This is pretty simple. Is it a solution to obesity?

A large nuke dropped on Gaza would end the fighting there. Also simple. Is it a solution?

No, no, I hear you saying, these actions would lead to other problems, don't solve the underlying complexities etc etc.

I'm having trouble believing that you can write in complete sentences but are too thick to understand how "just eat less" suffers from the same problems. So you must be trolling me - congrats! I'm ashamed it took me so long to recognize you're just playing dumb.

I've cited a bunch of scientific papers showing why just eating less isn't a solution. It may lead to temporary weight loss, but doesn't solve the issue long term, and causes other harms. If you want to provide any evidence for your claims or to dispute mine, go for it. Otherwise, cheers! The solution to your ignorance is you just need to learn more. Simple!

[โ€“] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Eating less food does not suffer the same considerations or consequences as cutting off a limb or dropping a nuclear weapon on a country undergoing a genocide.

These are further immaterial false equivalences.

If you temporarily eat less food but regularly eat too much food, you will gain weight. Similarly, if you temporarily eat too much food, but regularly eat less food, you will lose weight. This can be connected back to our earlier agreement that it is excess food you put in your body and do not burn that causes weight gain.

If you regularly eat enough, but not too much or too little, food for your body long-term, you will maintain a healthy weight long-term.

Now we have a simple solution to obesity and, at your prompting, a simple solution to long-term weight maintenance.