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[–] LollerCorleone@kbin.social 85 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

If it was any other West Asian country doing this, the entire West would be denouncing them and taking action. But because its Israel doing it, this is fine.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because there are consequences of you go against the grain. It's all about money...always. Palestinians have little to no money and influence.

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

It's sad that this type of comment can be and is often spun as "antisemitism"

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

Agreed. It's also frustrating that the labeling of anything anti-Zionist as anti-Semitism just gives actual anti-Semites the opportunity to claim their actual anti-Semitism is anything but.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I will never fault someone for standing up for their people. In fact, one has to admire the fact that this person put their money (and reputation) where their mouth is. We strongly disagree on the matter, but antisemitism has nothing to do with it.

A question, for me, is where is the same pressure from other players? Where are the mega rich Arabs and Muslims pulling their funding because somebody didn't put out a pro-Palestine message. Step up!

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the toxic sludge of racism + Islamophobia = support and empowerment for Israel to ethnically cleanse Palestine of Palestinians.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The other, possibly larger, part of it is the fear of being labeled antisemitic. Antisemitism is a huge problem all over the world but Jews aren't to blame for what's going on - Zionist are.

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep. And yet Israel is giving the rest of the world more excuses for antisemitism. Who is even winning this "war," other than Bibi and his toadies?

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No one. Jews everywhere will take a reputation hit from the public at large because Bibi pretends to speak for them.

I grew up in a Jewish neighborhood. I worked at a Jewish family business. I have lots of Jewish friends. And I've yet to meet a Jew who likes the guy...even the ones who support an Israeli state.

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Agreed. I'm Jewish and have never supported Israel, but my parents do and even they hate him.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I think I support the idea of Israel because they've historically been a target of genocide but I recognize that it's not my land being given away to make it. It's the perpetual expansion if Israel that bothers me.

Zionists originally wanted a homeland and they got it. Now, Zionists want an empire. I'm pretty sure Palestine won't exist after this conflict. You give a mouse a cookie...

[–] notenoughbutter@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

I read there was a protest on London recently