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Will we eventually run out of graveyards?
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Why do we even have graveyards? Embalming chemicals leach out and poison water tables, carbon footprint is horrendous, land is wasted for superstitious nonsense. Just cremate and scatter the ashes.
https://slate.com/technology/2022/10/cemeteries-drinking-tap-water-pollution-aquifers-dead-bodies.html , among others.
I want to be cremated, and then have my ashes condensed into a diamond. I want that diamond to be embedded in the hilt of a sword. I want everybody in my family for generations to be put in the same sword and then in the distant future when the zombies arise, my great great great great grandchild can break the glass and weild the blade honing the power of generations of ancestors in their hand and start lobbing off heads.
Uhh... Is it too late to change my answer?
Well, at least you've got dreams
Or just bury people without embalming them first? As a non-American I find it super weird that itβs the norm in the US. Why would you still do that anyway?
I think the idea is so that the empty meat vessel looks tasty and fresh for the funeral.
It can look fresh enough without embalming if kept cool right? Maybe a little makeup?
Embalming? WTF?! I guess I should have watched Six feet under to learn something
It's a legal requirement.
I know, but other than manmade laws, why?
As far as I know, itβs a US thing right? In the Netherlands embalming has been expressly prohibited up until 2009 I think. Granted, Dutch laws concerning what you can do with a dead body are pretty strict but embalming just seems weird to me.
Other than laws? Probably, to a degree, like an unfortunate number of things in the US, money. As of 2019, the death industry was >$20 Billion industry.
Over here in the US, we're stuck in a neoliberal hellscape where profit is more important than any human being and grief-stricken families are fair game for exploitation.
I actually don't think that is true. Caitlin Dougherty on YouTube has a video on it though. It's pushed by funeral directors because it's a big money maker for them.
It has to do with Christianity. Many Christians believe that Christ will come back raising the dead and restoring their bodies
Iβm pretty sure most denominations of Christianity bury their dead without embalming them first and have done so for most of history.
I've been a Christian all my life; I'm really, really sure that Christ can not only "restore" a body from nothing but make it much better than it was before. At least, I hope He plans to make it much better π
Prove it.
That is a question of faith my friend.
I have faith that you can't be restored.
Nah don't cremate. Bury the body with no box and no preservation. Get those nutrients right back into the soil as fast as possible.
Yes please. This is how I want to be buried. Back to the earth asap.
green/natural burials are cool.
Heres some resources, links anyway, that might be helpful with planning, if you wnat to and havent allready, for a green burial,( ahead of time, and ensuring that thise wishes are carried out later) , : ππ³ π³π²π³π²π²π± https://www.orderofthegooddeath.com/resources/green-burial/ https://www.greenburialcouncil.org/interactive-maps.html
and, for another jurisdiction, :http://www.naturaldeath.org.uk/index.php?page=find-a-natural-burial-site
ππ³ π³π²π³π²π²π± also worth mentioning,: if the intention is to go back to to the Erth as soon as possible, then the! not yet as widy avalable, but becoming more avalable repidly) 'natural organic reduction' could be a way to do that, similarly to that green burial, but often more quickly. they can make the whole decomposition happen o a highly controlled environment, conditions monitored and adjusted of needed for ideal decomposition conditions...
if that sound interesting see https://recompose.life/, for the company that started the practice, and offers the service.
And green funerals, a more widely avalable, and also very cool, option.
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Thank you for the detailed information.
Reminds me of something that happened when I was a gravedigger. The indigent get no embalming so we get them in the ground quickly, 2 or 3 days. Even then the smell is powerful sometimes. Anyway, an indigent guys funeral was held up for some reason that escapes me, so they froze him, while his arms were above his head. The story of getting him in that cheap cardboard casket the funeral director told me had me rolling. I don't know how that cheap casket stayed together but when we got it it was in baaad shape. Wish I took a picture.
There are other methods becoming more widely available In the US too such as Aquamation (alkaline hydrolysis) which yields similar remains like ashes you can spread and human composting (https://recompose.life/) which donβt emit fossil fuel emissions.
Not for everyone, sure, but I wanted to be composted. I liked that I would become a cubic yard of nutrient rich soil in about 30 days and will be utilized for forest restoration.
The mushroom shroud that breaks you down is also super cool but was pretty out of my price range.
Fucking bullshit that I can't have my relatives eat my corpse when I'm dead. Land of the free my (glazed and roasted) ass
If you amputate a bit beforehand you can enjoy some with them.
yeah. like that peron who had, it would seem, -( for medical reasons, a and by a mediacl professional) a part of their.. I think foot, amputated. They decided to keep the remains, and then.. well, there's a thought process, aintrestomg discussions, and a banquet, in the story. There's a vice news interview about it, from some years ago, if I recall.
edit: this seems to be it https://www.vice.com/en/article/gykmn7/legal-ethical-cannibalism-human-meat-tacos-reddit-wtf might need to scroll doa bit to get to the story.
Exactly what I had in mind!