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Iran warns Israel it will intervene if Gaza operation continues, report claims
(www.independent.co.uk)
this post was submitted on 15 Oct 2023
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Just what the world needs. I am getting some faint WWI vibes too. Maybe I am just being paranoid. But it seems like this could expand to more middle eastern countries than you've listed, should things go horribly wrong. I could also see this being turned into another proxy war—revenge by Russia for Western support for Ukraine.
I'm worried it might go further than that and devolve into a full-blown WWIII. I know that may seem far-fetched, especially since Israel isn't technically part of NATO, however the US is still a major Israeli ally. If Iran gets involved, it'll likely pull the US into the fight (though probably not with troops on the ground initially). If the US gets involved, Russia might get involved to keep the US busy and away from Ukraine. If Iran starts to become successful with Russian backing, the US might start putting troops on the ground to defend Israel, especially since if Israel collapses then Hamas will almost certainly commit genocide against Jewish Israelis. This would pull attention away from Taiwan, which means China may be tempted to seize the chance and invade while the US is getting spread thin. Meanwhile, Russia would likely seize the opportunity to make a hard push against Ukraine while the US is busy elsewhere. I'm not sure what India would do in this situation. I'm guessing that if China invaded Taiwan, then they might try to take the chance and fortify their borders while China's busy and maybe back up Taiwan, if for any reason just to limit China's global power; however I'm not really familiar with India's diplomatic ties.
I hope I'm wrong, I'm probably wrong, but there's a lot of tension in the world right now with Russia and China both trying to expand into other territories, and I honestly feel like we aren't that far off a full-blown, WWI-style descent into another world war. I wouldn't be surprised if Russia in particular is trying to push Iran into a war with Israel just so that the US quits funding Ukraine's defense.
Hope you're wrong too.
I don't like the idea of Hezbollah / Iran getting involved at all. That's why two US Navy carrier groups will be in the area shortly. Wouldn't be surprised if Russia pushes for that involvement though. And I could see us bolstering Israel with air power at a minimum.
I don't think Russia has anything to spare for a big push, and I don't see any reason to think our Intelligence community can't juggle Ukraine, Taiwan, and Gaza simultaneously. Even if we were distracted, we aren't involved enough in Ukraine for it to matter imo. But you might be right about finding. The right wingers in congress would probably get louder about dropping funding.
China going for Taiwan amidst all this would make this quite a circus. Ugh.
Well at least this time it won't involve trench warfare, the deserts have too much sand that'll fill back into any we try to dig!
I do not think you are paranoid. Maybe not straight out world war, but more war in the Middle East and Northern Africa. Egypt for example is suspiciously silent in the matter, although they are already trying to negotiate with Israel to curb the influx of Palestinian refugees. They sit straight at the border and their help for people in Gaza is still just discussed. I am sure they know other countries are watching their decisions on this.
Some people do not want to accept it but this is very much a war between religions as well. For many Muslims there is only one correct answer: Israel has to go. It's part of their identity to want the area to be a Muslim country. This also has an effect on countries everywhere. For example in Germany there is a huge drive to stand behind Israel in this matter. At the same time, Germany has a big Muslim immigrant population.