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[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Palestinian militants have a history of establishing enclaves and starting civil wars within the countries that host them. Arab countries have an apprehension about allowing too many Palestinians in because of this history.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This was a sad thing to learn about. Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, Kuwait. All of them saw civil war or strife after taking in Palestinians :/.

[–] probablyaCat@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

It's almost like a certain group doesn't want peace.

[–] charliespider@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

~~Palestinian~~ Iranian backed militants have a history of establishing enclaves and starting civil wars within the countries that host them. because of this history.

FTFY

[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, Iranian regimes have provided material aid to Palestinian militants towards their goals. That aid is still being provided, hence continuing apprehension.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

That's really not the flex you think it is.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Would it work for a larger country to fly in refugees, since hopefully they'd be much more resistant to civil wars? It'd be hard to sell your citizens on spending that much on non-citizens though.

[–] VentraSqwal@links.dartboard.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You'd basically be flying a while other small country into your country. I doubt any state wants that.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don't all need to go one place, but I agree it's unlikely to happen.

This is potentially larger than the rwandan genocide if you count all 2M inhabitants. We can't just let all these people die.

[–] VentraSqwal@links.dartboard.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right? We could split them up more, basically make the entire population a refugee diaspora split among various Arab countries, but then that means the Jewish people just did to another people what they claim was bad for them. Plus, isn't forcing migration is basically genocide? We can't condemn Stalin for doing the same thing a country we support is doing.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that'd be pretty terrible. But letting them be killed would be a lot worse. If there aren't enough supplies able to get in, and countries don't want to force Israel, it might be the lesser of two evils.

[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That is a better solution for those who want to flee or have the means or freedom to flee, or are ok with abandoning their communities and historical ties. However this would only help those refugees. For those who remain the situation will remain untenable until militants stop rising to power within Palestinian territories, and Israel negotiates a two state solution that involves giving up some land.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

I have a feeling we'll have more refugees than capacity to help them. But I agree.