Antisexism
This community is about Antisexism, a joint movement of men, women and nonbinary people against gender stereotypes and all sorts of gender-based discrimination.
Here you can share useful materials (articles, research, statistics, opinions...) on gender-based discrimination against men, women, and nonbinary people, and participate in common discussions and activities.
Rules:
1. No promotion of patriarchy (or matriarchy)
Systems based on dominance of one gender harm everyone, including, often times, people in the dominant group. They are intrinsically sexist and therefore strictly forbidden in this community.
2. Be civil and listen before you speak
The issues of gender equality often come as contentious. Remember - there are no enemies here! The purpose of this place is to discuss and find solutions together.
3. Respect personal experiences
All of us have different history and issues regarding gender stereotypes. Every experience is valid! Don't try to belittle it.
4. Everyone is welcome!
Antisexism is about everyone: men, women and nonbinary, cis- and trans-people. Every group and every person individually have unique experiences that we need to address.
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Aaaaaaaand this is the issue. This is a post about violence towards women. And you are saying "but there's also women serial killers".
As with "black lives matter", it is not that the author doesn:t see or believe that there isn't violence towards other ethnic groups, but that there exists a problem that is especially big, violence towarfs PoC. Or in this case, violence and sexism towards women.
This is a post about violence towards women by men. Please use this space to discuss violence towards women by men. If you want to highlight the violence towards men by men or towards men by women, chose or create a seperate post.
It's not that those topics don't merit discussion, but that discussion towards those issues diminish and undermine the conversation about the original topic. (as this long winded post towards your top comment.)
It's a post about men being predators. Women are not mentioned. You are the one showing your true colors by assuming women are the only people who can be preyed upon.
If you're going to be haughty and dismissive, you should at least make sure you are right first.
I’m exhausted at the “you’re all rapists and if you say otherwise you’re attacking us”
Fuck off with this divisive straw man shit.
The irony of this post is it goes “there’s no black and white”, then creates a new black and white with different goal posts.
You can’t accuse an entire sex (except generously 10%) of being evil then pretend that they shouldn’t be offended by it. Nobody is saying there aren’t bad men, but this is just complete unhealthy misandry.
Yes, there are problematic behaviours and it is absolutely not black and white, but seriously? Swap out the group to any other group and this is offensive and clearly wrong.
While it might be phrased unfortunately, I think "you're no angle either" is a natural way to respond to a verbal (image-based?) attack.
If you compare the colors top and bottom, the amount of 'good men' go from 90% down to 10%, with only 'heroic men' still getting the pure white color. Or in other words: "You are part predator, if you're not a hero".
But people - in general - like to hang with others that are similar to them. So, if you're e.g. a 'Well-meaning man', you will mostly enjoy the presence of 'well-meaning men', 'heroic men' and 'unfortunate fact men', with very very little amount of actual predators.
And since men usually don't start with "What's your stance on violence against women", to men, the top bar is their true experience: You're a good guy, until you're not.
And, the female impression is probably wrong, too. Since they're women, predators will actively seek them out.
So, the question then remains: What is the purpose of this post for men?
It makes sense in an all-women space. It validates the female viewpoint, and thus allows everyone to vent and grief their experience.
But men can only maybe define themselves as part predator and move on, because this post doesn't help transition our point of view towards the bottom one.
It just says: men are wrong, here is the truth, thus the reaction you got.
I think, in male or mixed spaces, a post would provoke less of this kind of reaction, if it would first validate men's viewpoint and then helps them - without invalidating their experience - explain the true population and women's experience.
Even better, if it removes men's worries about transitioning towards being a 'heroic men' and gives them a guide on how to recognize, stop and therapy predators.
After all, if only 10% of men you encounter are active predators, you will need some good training just to spot them when they're not 'on the hunt'.
Not true. The post is about male predators and victims. Doesn't mention the gender of the victims as it shouldn't, because it is irrelevant.
Woowooo topic police!